Gilchrist should retire from ODIs...

Mister Wright · 18-01-2006, 01:49 AM

...and Brendon Julian agrees with me!

I thought a few years back that Gilchrist should retire from test cricket and concentrate on ODIs if the workload got to much for him with Secombe to step up for tests, but now I don't think there is a keeper ready for the test team, but Haddin is more than capable for the ODI side so the time is right for Gilchrist to step aside, and by the time he is finished with test cricket Hartley would be more than ready.

Linda · 18-01-2006, 02:09 AM

Agreed wholeheartedly. Makes sense!
Edit: Except for the Hartley part..

luckyeddie · 18-01-2006, 02:14 AM

Do you agree with the rest of Julian's supposition - that Glenn McGrath ought to retire from ODI's too?

What's the highest priority - Ashes or WC2007?

Prince EWS · 18-01-2006, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyeddie

What's the highest priority

Test cricket.

howardj · 18-01-2006, 02:21 AM

Playing only one form of the game, has been really good for Matt Hayden's Test career. His improved performance has been enormously beneficial for the Test team, while his absence from the ODI team has not really harmed its cause. I think it could work out much the same if Gilchrist was dropped from the ODI team. Because, make no mistake, he will not retire from ODI cricket. He has a burning ambition to win three World Cups.

But, with some good performances from Brad Haddin in the next few matches, the decision could well be taken out of Gilchrist's hands. Everything moves on, and I just don't think Gilchrist is the player that he was, and that any of Clarke, Martyn, Jacques or Haddin would be any less effective at the top of the order - while our Test team would certainly be more effective if Gilchrist was confined to that form of the game only.

GotSpin · 18-01-2006, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by howardj

. Because, make no mistake, he will not retire from ODI cricket. He has a burning ambition to win three World Cups.

.

How do you know?

BTW, i hate how they "rest" him. Either drop him or make him work for his rests. Bludger

Deja moo · 18-01-2006, 02:35 AM

Why not simply rest him for a few ODI games every tour instead of retiring from one format altogether ? Cricket Australia can't afford Haddins plane tickets or what ?

howardj · 18-01-2006, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoT_SpIn

How do you know?

p

His manager has said several times in the paper that he will continue to play both forms, and then assess it after WC2007

GotSpin · 18-01-2006, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardj

His manager has said several times in the paper that he will continue to play both forms, and then assess it after WC2007

Oh ok, my bad.

age_master · 18-01-2006, 03:00 AM

maybe they should just play slightly less cricket full stop?

personally i think he should do what he wants to do rather than what other people think he should do.

LongHopCassidy · 18-01-2006, 03:08 AM

Gilchrist was invincible until England spooked him with reverse swing. It's entirely a confidence issue. He just needs to get back to basics: if it's full, drive it; if it's short, hook, pull or cut it; and if it's on a good length, stop it.

Pratters · 18-01-2006, 03:17 AM

Julian also believes a squad of 15-16 should play a cricket match with a baseball style different people batting and bowling.

On this - Gilly should and looks likely to play till 2007 for LOIs at least. Try and help Australia win another world cup

Jono · 18-01-2006, 03:22 AM

I just think they can keep resting him for relatively meaningless ODIs when they have already won a series (like the dead rubber against NZ this year) or when Australia have already qualified for a final or should, such as in this VB Series.

I reckon Gilly will play on to the 2007 WC, and I reckon he can if he's handled properly. Same goes for McGrath as well.

GotSpin · 18-01-2006, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pratyush

Julian also believes a squad of 15-16 should play a cricket match with a baseball style different people batting and bowling.

On this - Gilly should and looks likely to play till 2007 for LOIs at least. Try and help Australia win another world cup

Did he actually say that? What a ret...special person

Pratters · 18-01-2006, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoT_SpIn

Did he actually say that? What a ret...special person

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0...-23212,00.html

18-01-2006, 02:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Linda International Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Perth, West Aus Posts: 4,705	Agreed wholeheartedly. Makes sense! Edit: Except for the Hartley part.. __________________ "I know I underperformed but after the past 18 months I thought I might have received more than four Test matches' grace." - DR Martyn. "Is there any way to make it longer?" Peter English on Twenty20 Official Face of the v. hip 'Twenty20 Is Boring Society'

18-01-2006, 02:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,617	Do you agree with the rest of Julian's supposition - that Glenn McGrath ought to retire from ODI's too? What's the highest priority - Ashes or WC2007? __________________ Nigel Clough's Black and White Army, beating Forest away with 10 men

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age_master Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 15,777	maybe they should just play slightly less cricket full stop? personally i think he should do what he wants to do rather than what other people think he should do. __________________ Member of CW Green Kerry O'Keefe - Worlds funniest Commentator

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,099	Playing only one form of the game, has been really good for Matt Hayden's Test career. His improved performance has been enormously beneficial for the Test team, while his absence from the ODI team has not really harmed its cause. I think it could work out much the same if Gilchrist was dropped from the ODI team. Because, make no mistake, he will not retire from ODI cricket. He has a burning ambition to win three World Cups. But, with some good performances from Brad Haddin in the next few matches, the decision could well be taken out of Gilchrist's hands. Everything moves on, and I just don't think Gilchrist is the player that he was, and that any of Clarke, Martyn, Jacques or Haddin would be any less effective at the top of the order - while our Test team would certainly be more effective if Gilchrist was confined to that form of the game only.

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Pratters Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 20,794	Julian also believes a squad of 15-16 should play a cricket match with a baseball style different people batting and bowling. On this - Gilly should and looks likely to play till 2007 for LOIs at least. Try and help Australia win another world cup

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,431	I just think they can keep resting him for relatively meaningless ODIs when they have already won a series (like the dead rubber against NZ this year) or when Australia have already qualified for a final or should, such as in this VB Series. I reckon Gilly will play on to the 2007 WC, and I reckon he can if he's handled properly. Same goes for McGrath as well.

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