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Australian XI: 1995-2005

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/227886.html

I don't think I've seen a thread started on this topic yet. I saw this article and had a read. Interesting line-up, I'm wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees with the team chosen. I'm sure a lot will be said in regards to Hayden's selection, and having Healy keep whilst Gilchrist is selected as a specialist bat is another interesting choice.

Whilst not making the side, Brett Lee was in contention:
Brett Lee, who was favoured ahead of Gillespie by Lillee, Michael Kasprowicz and Damien Fleming all received votes
Hayden
Taylor (c)
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Healy+
Warne
Gillespie
McDermott
McGrath

Thoughts?
 
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Beleg

International Regular
Langer for Hayden, Martyn for Healy with Gilchrist to keep the wickets and Damien Fleming in place of Craig McDermott.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I'm a little surprised Hayden was the most popular choice as opener when you consider the opposition! I'd take Langer myself.

No mention at all for Paul Reiffel either. If the team was playing in English conditions I think he'd have a pretty strong case. McDermott was v near to the end by 1995 too.
 

howardj

International Coach
Jono said:
Hayden
Taylor (c)
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Healy+
Warne
Gillespie
McDermott
McGrath

Thoughts?
(a) Langer instead of Taylor. The gap between Langer/Hayden's batting (and their partnership) and Taylor's batting, is far bigger than the gap between Taylor's ability to captain this team, and Shane Warne's ability to captain this team. Australian cricket leadership must have been pretty bad (which it wasn’t) if one guy (Taylor) - in a whole decade’s worth of players - needs to be selected for his captaincy alone.

(b) Martyn instead of Healy. Once again, the gap between Healy and Martyn's batting is massive, while the gap between Healy and Gilchrist's keeping is much smaller. People view Healy through rose-coloured glasses, as though he never made a mistake. He made his fair share.

(c) Warne as captain. He'd be better than Steve Waugh when Plan A (which is bowl McGrath and Warne and set a ring field) didn't work. It virtually always did work for Waugh though!

(d) McGill for McDermott. Teams are absolutely woeful at playing leg-spin. Warne and McGill are a winning combination. When Warne doesn't pick up a swag of wickets, McGill does. And vice-versa. SWaugh could always roll the arm over (hamstring willing) as the medium pacer. Plus, as with the Australian team at the moment, when two in-form quicks and Warne and McGill are playing, the fifth bowler hardly bowls anyway.

Langer
Hayden
Ponting
MWaugh
SWaugh
Martyn
Gilchrist
Warne (c)
Gillespie
McGill
McGrath
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Hayden
Taylor
Langer
M Waugh
S Waugh (c)
Ponting
Gilchrist
Warne
Reiffel
Gillespie
McGrath
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/227886.html

I don't think I've seen a thread started on this topic yet. I saw this article and had a read. Interesting line-up, I'm wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees with the team chosen. I'm sure a lot will be said in regards to Hayden's selection, and having Healy keep whilst Gilchrist is selected as a specialist bat is another interesting choice.

Whilst not making the side, Brett Lee was in contention:


Hayden
Taylor (c)
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Healy+
Warne
Gillespie
McDermott
McGrath

Thoughts?
i agree with it 100%, the only possible change would be MacGill for McDermott, because its the best australian team with all the players in top form so in that sense at their peaks thw Waugh brothers were handy medium pacers.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
howardj said:
(a) Langer instead of Taylor. The gap between Langer/Hayden's batting (and their partnership) and Taylor's batting, is far bigger than the gap between Taylor's ability to captain this team, and Shane Warne's ability to captain this team. Australian cricket leadership must have been pretty bad (which it wasn’t) if one guy (Taylor) - in a whole decade’s worth of players - needs to be selected for his captaincy alone.

(b) Martyn instead of Healy. Once again, the gap between Healy and Martyn's batting is massive, while the gap between Healy and Gilchrist's keeping is much smaller. People view Healy through rose-coloured glasses, as though he never made a mistake. He made his fair share.

(c) Warne as captain. He'd be better than Steve Waugh when Plan A (which is bowl McGrath and Warne and set a ring field) didn't work. It virtually always did work for Waugh though!

(d) McGill for McDermott. Teams are absolutely woeful at playing leg-spin. Warne and McGill are a winning combination. When Warne doesn't pick up a swag of wickets, McGill does. And vice-versa. SWaugh could always roll the arm over (hamstring willing) as the medium pacer. Plus, as with the Australian team at the moment, when two in-form quicks and Warne and McGill are playing, the fifth bowler hardly bowls anyway.
very solid points here, howard i'd be out of my mind to disagree with you but then again i dont disagree with the selected side either :sleep:
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
And what would the worst XI of the last 10 years be?
Hmm i dont think with the players that are beyond the nuclues that have been discussed so far to be in the best aussie XI over the last decade, that any of them i.e Lehmann, Bevan, Fleming, Miller etc can be placed under the category of the ``WORST``, more like a 2nd XI...
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Elliott
Blewett
Love
Hodge
Symonds
Campbell (ODI's because the only keepers have been Gilchrist and Healy)
Hauritz
Robertson
Nicholson
Cook
Muller

Batting was particularly hard because they've all been good. Tait, Williams and Angel all unlucky to miss out on that side.
 

howardj

International Coach
James90 said:
Elliott
Blewett
Love
Hodge
Symonds
Campbell (ODI's because the only keepers have been Gilchrist and Healy)
Hauritz
Robertson
Nicholson
Cook
Muller

Batting was particularly hard because they've all been good. Tait, Williams and Angel all unlucky to miss out on that side.
Man, Scotty Muller wasn't actually all that bad (despite Simon O'Donnell's infamous remark!). He actually took seven wickets in two Test matches. Instead of Muller, I'd go for an all-rounder - Shaun Young!
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
howardj said:
Shaun Young!
i remember him from the last ashes test in 97 but vaugely though, never saw him again after that, how good was in domestic competitions?
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
Jono said:
Hayden
Taylor (c)
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Healy+
Warne
Gillespie
McDermott
McGrath
This would be my side:
Langer
Taylor (c)
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Healy+
Warne
Gillespie
Fleming
McGrath
 

ClownSymonds

U19 Vice-Captain
Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
S Waugh(c)
MEK Hussey
Clown
Gilchrist+
Warne
Gillespie
McGrath

(If I didn't like Clown so much, I'd put in Lehmann instead, and I don't care if I'm a bowler short.)
 

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'd have Langer over Taylor and ideally Martyn over Mark Waugh, but because I don't see the need for a specialist keeper in Healy, both are still in my tea.

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh*
Martyn
Gilchrist+
Warne (vc)
Gillespie
McDermott
McGrath
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
I'd have:

Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
M Waugh
S Waugh (c)
Gilchrist+
Warne (vc)
Gillespie
MacGll
McGrath
12th man: Fleming

I don't feel McDermott was anywhere as good in 1995 as he was previously. If it was 1990-present it may have been a different story.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
howardj said:
Plus, as with the Australian team at the moment, when two in-form quicks and Warne and McGill are playing, the fifth bowler hardly bowls anyway.
But then again they only bowl together on helpful wickets.
 

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