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    Australian XI: 1995-2005

    http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/aust...ry/227886.html

    I don't think I've seen a thread started on this topic yet. I saw this article and had a read. Interesting line-up, I'm wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees with the team chosen. I'm sure a lot will be said in regards to Hayden's selection, and having Healy keep whilst Gilchrist is selected as a specialist bat is another interesting choice.

    Whilst not making the side, Brett Lee was in contention:
    Brett Lee, who was favoured ahead of Gillespie by Lillee, Michael Kasprowicz and Damien Fleming all received votes
    Hayden
    Taylor (c)
    Ponting
    M Waugh
    S Waugh
    Gilchrist
    Healy+
    Warne
    Gillespie
    McDermott
    McGrath

    Thoughts?
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    Langer for Hayden, Martyn for Healy with Gilchrist to keep the wickets and Damien Fleming in place of Craig McDermott.

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    ^ Agree with the above except for the Fleming bit.
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    I'm a little surprised Hayden was the most popular choice as opener when you consider the opposition! I'd take Langer myself.

    No mention at all for Paul Reiffel either. If the team was playing in English conditions I think he'd have a pretty strong case. McDermott was v near to the end by 1995 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Hayden
    Taylor (c)
    Ponting
    M Waugh
    S Waugh
    Gilchrist
    Healy+
    Warne
    Gillespie
    McDermott
    McGrath

    Thoughts?
    (a) Langer instead of Taylor. The gap between Langer/Hayden's batting (and their partnership) and Taylor's batting, is far bigger than the gap between Taylor's ability to captain this team, and Shane Warne's ability to captain this team. Australian cricket leadership must have been pretty bad (which it wasn’t) if one guy (Taylor) - in a whole decade’s worth of players - needs to be selected for his captaincy alone.

    (b) Martyn instead of Healy. Once again, the gap between Healy and Martyn's batting is massive, while the gap between Healy and Gilchrist's keeping is much smaller. People view Healy through rose-coloured glasses, as though he never made a mistake. He made his fair share.

    (c) Warne as captain. He'd be better than Steve Waugh when Plan A (which is bowl McGrath and Warne and set a ring field) didn't work. It virtually always did work for Waugh though!

    (d) McGill for McDermott. Teams are absolutely woeful at playing leg-spin. Warne and McGill are a winning combination. When Warne doesn't pick up a swag of wickets, McGill does. And vice-versa. SWaugh could always roll the arm over (hamstring willing) as the medium pacer. Plus, as with the Australian team at the moment, when two in-form quicks and Warne and McGill are playing, the fifth bowler hardly bowls anyway.

    Langer
    Hayden
    Ponting
    MWaugh
    SWaugh
    Martyn
    Gilchrist
    Warne (c)
    Gillespie
    McGill
    McGrath

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    Hayden
    Taylor
    Langer
    M Waugh
    S Waugh (c)
    Ponting
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Reiffel
    Gillespie
    McGrath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/aust...ry/227886.html

    I don't think I've seen a thread started on this topic yet. I saw this article and had a read. Interesting line-up, I'm wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees with the team chosen. I'm sure a lot will be said in regards to Hayden's selection, and having Healy keep whilst Gilchrist is selected as a specialist bat is another interesting choice.

    Whilst not making the side, Brett Lee was in contention:


    Hayden
    Taylor (c)
    Ponting
    M Waugh
    S Waugh
    Gilchrist
    Healy+
    Warne
    Gillespie
    McDermott
    McGrath

    Thoughts?
    i agree with it 100%, the only possible change would be MacGill for McDermott, because its the best australian team with all the players in top form so in that sense at their peaks thw Waugh brothers were handy medium pacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James90
    Reiffel
    nah, i dont think we can honestly have him in their...

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj
    (a) Langer instead of Taylor. The gap between Langer/Hayden's batting (and their partnership) and Taylor's batting, is far bigger than the gap between Taylor's ability to captain this team, and Shane Warne's ability to captain this team. Australian cricket leadership must have been pretty bad (which it wasn’t) if one guy (Taylor) - in a whole decade’s worth of players - needs to be selected for his captaincy alone.

    (b) Martyn instead of Healy. Once again, the gap between Healy and Martyn's batting is massive, while the gap between Healy and Gilchrist's keeping is much smaller. People view Healy through rose-coloured glasses, as though he never made a mistake. He made his fair share.

    (c) Warne as captain. He'd be better than Steve Waugh when Plan A (which is bowl McGrath and Warne and set a ring field) didn't work. It virtually always did work for Waugh though!

    (d) McGill for McDermott. Teams are absolutely woeful at playing leg-spin. Warne and McGill are a winning combination. When Warne doesn't pick up a swag of wickets, McGill does. And vice-versa. SWaugh could always roll the arm over (hamstring willing) as the medium pacer. Plus, as with the Australian team at the moment, when two in-form quicks and Warne and McGill are playing, the fifth bowler hardly bowls anyway.
    very solid points here, howard i'd be out of my mind to disagree with you but then again i dont disagree with the selected side either

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    And what would the worst XI of the last 10 years be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush
    And what would the worst XI of the last 10 years be?
    Hmm i dont think with the players that are beyond the nuclues that have been discussed so far to be in the best aussie XI over the last decade, that any of them i.e Lehmann, Bevan, Fleming, Miller etc can be placed under the category of the ``WORST``, more like a 2nd XI...

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    Elliott
    Blewett
    Love
    Hodge
    Symonds
    Campbell (ODI's because the only keepers have been Gilchrist and Healy)
    Hauritz
    Robertson
    Nicholson
    Cook
    Muller

    Batting was particularly hard because they've all been good. Tait, Williams and Angel all unlucky to miss out on that side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James90
    Elliott
    Blewett
    Love
    Hodge
    Symonds
    Campbell (ODI's because the only keepers have been Gilchrist and Healy)
    Hauritz
    Robertson
    Nicholson
    Cook
    Muller

    Batting was particularly hard because they've all been good. Tait, Williams and Angel all unlucky to miss out on that side.
    Man, Scotty Muller wasn't actually all that bad (despite Simon O'Donnell's infamous remark!). He actually took seven wickets in two Test matches. Instead of Muller, I'd go for an all-rounder - Shaun Young!

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj
    Shaun Young!
    i remember him from the last ashes test in 97 but vaugely though, never saw him again after that, how good was in domestic competitions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Hayden
    Taylor (c)
    Ponting
    M Waugh
    S Waugh
    Gilchrist
    Healy+
    Warne
    Gillespie
    McDermott
    McGrath
    This would be my side:
    Langer
    Taylor (c)
    Ponting
    M Waugh
    S Waugh
    Gilchrist
    Healy+
    Warne
    Gillespie
    Fleming
    McGrath

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