England's Fast Bowling Coach Returns Home

social · 12-12-2005, 03:30 AM

Heard for the first time today that Troy Cooley, the Australian-born coach largely credited with the development of the current England test attack, has taken up a position with Cricket Australia and will be based at the Academy in Brisbane.

He'll be working with both the test team and up-and-comers.

About time we had specialist coaches for the test players and not just computer analysts.

Big gain for Aus and big loss for Eng.

ClownSymonds · 12-12-2005, 04:02 AM

Good to see him coming back home. He didn't belong in England. Too bad he realized that a bit late.

BoyBrumby · 12-12-2005, 09:36 AM

I'm really hoping he just wants to go back home after three years of stout service. However if he's leaving because the ACB has offered him more money, the ECB wants to have a good long look in the mirror. Cooley has improved our seamers out of all recognition in his time with us, frankly we should be bending over backwards to keep him.

Big shoes to fill.

age_master · 12-12-2005, 01:38 PM

yeah good to see him coming back to Australia, we need him.

steds · 12-12-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by age_master

yeah good to see him coming back to Australia, we need him.

You need a bloody miracle if Tait's the best you've got.

superkingdave · 12-12-2005, 02:01 PM

managed to set Jimmy back a couple of years by 'remodelling his action' so we'll see what he does with tait.

Tim · 12-12-2005, 02:10 PM

Same could have been said about Harmison when he looked like a loose cannon & Hoggard was pretty much a nearly man, but both have come through thanks in part to Cooley.

From what I can gather, he's extremely good at working with bowlers so it's a big loss for England for sure.

age_master · 12-12-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by steds

You need a bloody miracle if Tait's the best you've got.

hes not the best weve got, but hes not that bad either.

Craig · 13-12-2005, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

I'm really hoping he just wants to go back home after three years of stout service. However if he's leaving because the ACB has offered him more money, the ECB wants to have a good long look in the mirror. Cooley has improved our seamers out of all recognition in his time with us, frankly we should be bending over backwards to keep him.

Big shoes to fill.

There's always Dennis Lillee

Jono · 13-12-2005, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by steds

You need a bloody miracle if Tait's the best you've got.

I'm far from a Tait fan, in fact I think it was down right idiotic for him to be selected in the Ashes series and believe right now he belongs no where near a baggy green cap, however comments like that are stupid. I'm sure a few Aussies and neutrals were thinking that when Harmison toured here with England for the Ashes in 2002. He's turned out to be a fine bowler. Same can be said of Freddy.

marc71178 · 13-12-2005, 06:21 AM

Actually, many Australians recognised the talents Harmison displayed on that tour.

Jono · 13-12-2005, 06:32 AM

I never said that all Australians thought Harmy was crap, hence the word "few" and "Aussies and neutrals". I for one thought of him as a prospect, if not specifically for his unique West Indian style of bowling which caught my eye. But I know many Aussie cricket fans who laughed at the fact that their best was Caddick, and their best for the future was Harmison.

Just like I'm sure at least some English see the fact that Tait can be a very dangerous bowler, and there is the potential for a good bowler to come out of that. At the same time others see him as rubbish who will always be rubbish. That's just stupid.

BoyBrumby · 13-12-2005, 10:51 AM

There's an interesting article in today's Guardian by Mike Selvey on losing Cooley:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/...665748,00.html

He does touch on what I feared:

it is believed that in the aftermath of the Ashes success he may have been seeking improved terms to his contract which may not have been forthcoming. Almost certainly Cricket Australia will have recognised the moment to get their man.

It's just staggeringly short-sighted we allowed this to happen, particularly with the ECB having Murdoch's thirty pieces of silver tucked away in their pocket.

age_master · 13-12-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Actually, many Australians recognised the talents Harmison displayed on that tour.

well if you took out all the wides he bowled he probably didn't bowl that badly

aussie · 13-12-2005, 05:45 PM

could be the first step in australia regaining the ashes & building a good fast bowling battery, will be good to see him work with Tait, Johnson & all the other potential aussie pacers for the future..

12-12-2005, 03:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
social International Coach Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 11,078	England's Fast Bowling Coach Returns Home Heard for the first time today that Troy Cooley, the Australian-born coach largely credited with the development of the current England test attack, has taken up a position with Cricket Australia and will be based at the Academy in Brisbane. He'll be working with both the test team and up-and-comers. About time we had specialist coaches for the test players and not just computer analysts. Big gain for Aus and big loss for Eng.

12-12-2005, 04:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
ClownSymonds U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 574	Good to see him coming back home. He didn't belong in England. Too bad he realized that a bit late. __________________ I bowl seam-ups and take the pace off the ball.

12-12-2005, 09:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,658	I'm really hoping he just wants to go back home after three years of stout service. However if he's leaving because the ACB has offered him more money, the ECB wants to have a good long look in the mirror. Cooley has improved our seamers out of all recognition in his time with us, frankly we should be bending over backwards to keep him. Big shoes to fill. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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age_master Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 15,777	yeah good to see him coming back to Australia, we need him. __________________ Member of CW Green Kerry O'Keefe - Worlds funniest Commentator

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Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Same could have been said about Harmison when he looked like a loose cannon & Hoggard was pretty much a nearly man, but both have come through thanks in part to Cooley. From what I can gather, he's extremely good at working with bowlers so it's a big loss for England for sure.

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marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Actually, many Australians recognised the talents Harmison displayed on that tour. __________________ marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good! Anyone want to join the Society? Beware the evils of Kit-Kats - they're immoral apparently.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,554	I never said that all Australians thought Harmy was crap, hence the word "few" and "Aussies and neutrals". I for one thought of him as a prospect, if not specifically for his unique West Indian style of bowling which caught my eye. But I know many Aussie cricket fans who laughed at the fact that their best was Caddick, and their best for the future was Harmison. Just like I'm sure at least some English see the fact that Tait can be a very dangerous bowler, and there is the potential for a good bowler to come out of that. At the same time others see him as rubbish who will always be rubbish. That's just stupid.

13-12-2005, 10:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,658	There's an interesting article in today's Guardian by Mike Selvey on losing Cooley: http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/...665748,00.html He does touch on what I feared: it is believed that in the aftermath of the Ashes success he may have been seeking improved terms to his contract which may not have been forthcoming. Almost certainly Cricket Australia will have recognised the moment to get their man. It's just staggeringly short-sighted we allowed this to happen, particularly with the ECB having Murdoch's thirty pieces of silver tucked away in their pocket.

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aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	could be the first step in australia regaining the ashes & building a good fast bowling battery, will be good to see him work with Tait, Johnson & all the other potential aussie pacers for the future..

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