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    Cricketer Of The Year Arjun's Avatar
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    This is what Boycott said: Makes the Dhoni-worship here look pale

    When I got home to watch the highlights or listen to comments on the Jaipur ODI, I heard some rather hilarious comments by Geoffrey Boycott, the in-house expert, on Dhoni's explosive innings of 183 not out. This is what Boycott said, and it makes the Dhoni-worship here look pale.
    Oh, it's so easy to score big runs off weak opposition like Westt Indies, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. When will he score runs against real opposition? He hasn't yet scored against England, the world champions, or Australia, who once were the world champions, or even South Africa o New Zealand. Where's the opposition?
    I can understand Boycott often enjoys a joke, but this one's going way over the top.

    After all, the ODI table shows something- where are 'World Champions' England and where are Sri Lanka? The 'weak' Lankans are the second-best ODI side, while England are somewhere in the middle of the table, and avoid hitting rock-bottom because of a weak West Indian side and a dreadfully out-of-form Indian team.

    And how many ODI series have England won in the recent past? You can count them on the fingers of one hand, if you take into account what they have won since Vaughan took over, even if you include the wins against minnows. In comparison, the 'dethroned' Aussies have won nearly every ODI series they have played, while the 'weak' Lankans have a rather good ODI record, especially at home.

    As a team, it's obvious, the Lankans are a lot better. The English may have some fantastic batsmen (Trescothick and Pietersen), bowlers (Harmison and Jones) and a phenomenal all-rounder (Flintoff), but as a combination, they have often found wanting. Support bowlers get plundered for runs, the fielding leaks and save three batsmen in the lineup, the rest of it looks weak. The Lankans may have a cheap look to them, but they stick to the basics and get it right, and it helps. They save runs. They pinch singles. They build partnerships. If the Lankans play seven matches against the English, even if the top batting and bowling honours are taken by England's stars, the Lankans can win the series.

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    I guess an Ashes win was too much for even the level headed Boycs to digest.
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    Well not exactly the type of bombshell I was thinking

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    Drivel. Sri Lanka were the number 2 ODI outfit up to a very short time ago - it seems like he's gotten himself mixed up between test cricket and one-dayers. At least he didn't mention his dear, departed mother.

    While he's entertaining (so is Bill Lawry, in his own special way), I don't really understand why Boycs is held in such regard as a commentator. Well, by people other than Englishmen, anyway.

    And I thought the bombshell might have been about something else too - don't know if I had the same thought as Pratyush though.
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    umm england are world champions?

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    I am gonna assume some of these comments are tongue in cheek. Anyway, I am not surprised that he doesn't rate the Lankan Lions. He always thinks little of them, because of their away record, which isn't so good.

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    I do wish Navjot Singh Sidhu didn't lose his contract with the channel- his response to that would be hilarious!
    And I thought the bombshell might have been about something else too - don't know if I had the same thought as Pratyush though.
    I thought of that title on impulse.
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    Who was the quote in the original post actually about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
    Who was the quote in the original post actually about?
    That was what Boycs said on Follow Through, a half-hour discussion on STAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    That was what Boycs said on Follow Through, a half-hour discussion on STAR.
    I think he meant which player - I'd assumed he was talking about Mahendra Dhoni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    As a team, it's obvious, the Lankans are a lot better. The English may have some fantastic batsmen (Trescothick and Pietersen), bowlers (Harmison and Jones) and a phenomenal all-rounder (Flintoff), but as a combination, they have often found wanting. Support bowlers get plundered for runs, the fielding leaks and save three batsmen in the lineup, the rest of it looks weak. The Lankans may have a cheap look to them, but they stick to the basics and get it right, and it helps. They save runs. They pinch singles. They build partnerships. If the Lankans play seven matches against the English, even if the top batting and bowling honours are taken by England's stars, the Lankans can win the series.
    Err did you even bother to look at the performances of England against Australia? It's pretty obvious to most people that England have used ODIs to help the progress of future Test players, they've not really taken ODIs seriously until the series against Australia. I think we'll see England move up to no. 2 in the table as they shift their focus on to the world cup. As for Sri Lanka (and New Zealand) they're on the decline I'm afraid.
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    How predictable that Scaly comes here and talks about how England use ODIs to groom their test side. Even if that is so, that doesn't take away from England being "in the pack" along with all the other ODI teams other than Australia. England haven't been a good ODI side, maybe they will become one, but they're not the best at the moment. That's what Boycott is saying. Why do you get so frickin' defensive when the England team is criticised? The main point of this thread was that Boycott is completely underrated (and frnakly insulting) the SL team.

    That is just one of the stupidest things Boycott has ever said, and he's said a lot of crap. I agree with SL, he's entertaining but the fact that people rate him amongst the best commentators in the world is a bit crazy. He's not even in the top 5 for me, taking into account 'entertainment' and 'tactical' commentary.

    For someone apparently so smart as Boycott, he seems to not know the difference between tests and ODIs.
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    As for Sri Lanka (and New Zealand) they're on the decline I'm afraid.
    Lmao.. New Zealand is anything but on a decline SP..we have just lost a few tight games to S.A.. and with the return of bond.. and our batting clicking together things can only get better..
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    Boycs eh, mad as a lorry. I couldn't give a monkeys aunt about ODI's. Obviously it would be nice to do well in the World Cup, but given the choice I'd take a Test series win in India over a WC victory any day. And yes I think England would lose a ODI series against the Ceylonese. And SA. And Pak, Ind, NZ, WI...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_of_darkness
    Lmao.. New Zealand is anything but on a decline SP..we have just lost a few tight games to S.A.. and with the return of bond.. and our batting clicking together things can only get better..
    What batting or bowling talent have you unearthed then? You're still picking the likes of Mills and McMillan and Cairns is being pensioned off - where's the improvement going to come from?

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