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    Quote Originally Posted by simmy
    How McGrath is ahead of Warne I cant figure out!

    The guy just took 30+ wickets against the 2nd placed side on an away tour!
    McGrath's been comfortably the best bowler in the world since his return from injury, and has held a stranglehold on top spot. His average since he came back against Sri Lanka in mid 2004 is under 20, and against good opposition for the most part as well. Warne's made the move from outside the top 5 to second on the back of his Ashes series and a good Super Test.
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    MCgrath had injuries throughout the tour of England hence the reason he wasnt as effective as he usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave
    but if you average nigh on 50 can you be a bowler
    Youre basing all your thoughts of a good bowler on his overall average. We are talking about now not through out his entire career. And he does keep the runs down which makes him a pretty decent bowler. Hes also taken a few wickets lately but not like that of Warne

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    ODI Batsman
    1 Adam Gilchrist AUS 810
    2 Ricky Ponting AUS 791
    3 Graeme Smith AFR 724
    4 Marcus Trescothick ENG 723
    5 Chris Gayle ROW 718
    6 Yousuf Youhana ASI 709
    7 Sanath Jayasuriya SL 707
    8 Inzamam-ul-Haq ASI 694
    9 Marvan Atapattu SL 692
    9 Kumar Sangakkara ROW 692

    ODI Bowlers
    1 Glenn McGrath AUS 842
    2 Brett Lee AUS 805
    3 Muttiah Muralitharan ROW 785
    4 Chaminda Vaas SL 781
    5 Shaun Pollock ROW 733
    6 Daniel Vettori ROW 717
    7 Naved-ul-Hasan PAK 714
    8 Makhaya Ntini ROW 707
    9 Steve Harmison ENG 705
    10 Jacob Oram NZ 681

    ODI All-Rounders
    1 Andrew Flintoff ROW 4425
    2 Andrew Symonds AUS 3755
    3 Shoaib Malik PAK 3632
    4 Sanath Jayasuriya SL 3492
    5 Shaun Pollock ROW 3474

    Doesn't anyone care about ODIs


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    not as much as we care about the real deal.
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    In the end, I think it's so utterly, incomprehensibly boring. There is so much context behind each innings of cricket that dissecting statistics into these small samples is just worthless. No-one has ever been faced with the same situation in which they come out to bat as someone else. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani
    not as much as we care about the real deal.
    Till the time Bangladesh and Zim are part of the international setup, it is better we dont read much into these ratings. We will continue to see pretenders like Irfan Pathan find a place in the so called Top 10.
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    we have enough sense to disregard that.

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    Vettori is 5th in test allrounder rankings atm. Good stuff, obviously Flintoff is expected to lead both

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani
    not as much as we care about the real deal.

    well said honest

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    ODI All-Rounders
    1 Andrew Flintoff ROW 4425
    2 Andrew Symonds AUS 3755
    3 Shoaib Malik PAK 3632
    4 Sanath Jayasuriya SL 3492
    5 Shaun Pollock ROW 3474

    Doesn't anyone care about ODIs [/QUOTE]

    Glad to see that Andrew Symonds is considered an allrounder by those that matter in world cricket circles, Expect to see Mr Watson in this list within next few years.(heres hoping anyway)
    Well done Symo,number 2 with a bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramkumar_gr
    May be you should have done that. Never mind. I was just referring to the flawed system
    ICC follows for Players ranking. Irfan Pathan, if you exclude the Zimbabwe and bangladesh
    series, is averaging in the high 40s and i really feel he does not deserve a place in the Indian Test team
    let alone the ICC top 10
    Indian team is honored to have a player like IKP in its rank & IKP truely deserve the number tenth slot on ICC ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaka
    Vettori is 5th in test allrounder rankings atm. Good stuff, obviously Flintoff is expected to lead both
    Yes, but bizarrely, in spite of it being so obvious, this is the first time he's been number 1 in Tests ever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlo33692
    Glad to see that Andrew Symonds is considered an allrounder by those that matter in world cricket circles
    The same people who rate Sanath Jayasuriya as a Test all-rounder?

    The All-rounder ratings are not the best formula yet (and I doubt that'll ever change because there's no way of ranking it)

    Therefore a player with notional rankings of 700 in each would be beaten by someone with 900 and 545 - even though the 545 would put them way down the list in that aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natman20
    Youre basing all your thoughts of a good bowler on his overall average. We are talking about now not through out his entire career. And he does keep the runs down which makes him a pretty decent bowler. Hes also taken a few wickets lately but not like that of Warne
    It was a half joking comment but actually i wasn't looking at his overall average, i was looking at the last 2 years - as Faaip said "If you average 40+ over the last two years, you can be considered a batsman." Can you be considered a bowler if you have taken 30wickets@57.7 in the last two years?

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