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Player of the Year awards

nick-o

State 12th Man
Who ought to win?

Bear in mind its for the period 1 August 2004 - 31 July 2005

NOMINATIONS

Player of the Year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)
# Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Glenn McGrath (Australia)

Test player of the year
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)
# Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
# Glenn McGrath (Australia)
# Shane Warne (Australia)

One-day player of the year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Brett Lee (Australia)
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
# Andrew Symonds (Australia)

Emerging player of the year
# Aftab Ahmed (Bangladesh)
# Ian Bell (England)
# Dinesh Karthik (India)
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
# AB de Villiers (South Africa)


For me, I reckon Player of the year and Test player of the year ought to be split betwen Kallis and McGrath, with KP either ODI or Emerging Player of the year
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I reckon, really, de Villiers should win Emerging Player (a notoriously meaningless award in any context - ICC or other), Kallis Test Player Of The Year, Pietersen ODI Player Of The Year and, well, anyone's guess for Player Of The Year. Kallis' ODI form has been poor in 2005, Flintoff's hardly played and hasn't exactly been especially impressive when he has, and Gilchrist has had 4 superb Tests and 5 poor ones.
So really it probably should be McGrath.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Flintoff for player of the year
Warne for player of the year
Pieterson for one day player of the year
De villiers for emrging player
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Indeed maybe Warne is more deserving than Kallis of Test Player Of The Year.
And given his massively larger Box-Office appeal he'll very, very probably win it.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
i would be very suprised if warney doesnt win it, and if anyone other than de villiers wins emerging player its pretty criminal as well imo.
 

shaka

International Regular
Flintoff, Warne for test player, Flintoff for ODI player, and De villiers for emerging player
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Neil Pickup said:
What's the point in the cut-off period? Big media OG if a non-Ashes-player wins a biggie.
I think the cut-off period is the only thing that prevents a Flintoff clean sweep.

I think he should retain the ODI award, but probably won't win the other 2.

Question is, will the Ashes be in people's memories come the 2006 awards?
 

jlo33692

U19 Debutant
marc71178 said:
I think the cut-off period is the only thing that prevents a Flintoff clean sweep.

I think he should retain the ODI award, but probably won't win the other 2.

Question is, will the Ashes be in people's memories come the 2006 awards?
gOOD POINT mARC, I WAS WATCHING THE CRICKET SHOW LAST NIGHT AND aLAN bORDER WAS SAYING THE SAME THING..oops sorry for yelling, he was saying the test matches from ashes are only including the first test match that australia won and that was the cut of point.Gives gilchrist some hope then.Be a shame if Flintoff doesnt win it though as he has been the best in world cricket IMO,but it dont always work that way does it?
 

nick-o

State 12th Man
marc37924 said:
I think the cut-off period is the only thing that prevents a Flintoff clean sweep.

I think he should retain the ODI award, but probably won't win the other 2.

Question is, will the Ashes be in people's memories come the 2006 awards?
I can't see how Fred-o deserves the ODI award over KP. 464 runs at 38 compared to 786 runs at 87; even adding his bowling -- 25 wkts at 23 -- I can't see how he deserves it.

ABDV and KP should be head-to-head as emerging player -- if KP gets the ODI award, ABDV gets the emerging player award, otherwise its a toss-up.

For the test and overall awards, I still think Kallis and McGrath split them; Fred-o in the cut-off period wasn't up there, and Warne... I have the feeling people are thinking about his exemplary Ashes series. What did he do in the qualifying period that makes him the best?
 

nick-o

State 12th Man
Neil Pickup said:
What's the point in the cut-off period? Big media OG if a non-Ashes-player wins a biggie.
Or you could turn that argument on its head and say that if Ashes performances dominate the decision-making the ICC has made a mockery of its own rules about the cut-off.

FWIW, the judges are the 10 Test captains, 15 umpires and referees, and 25 veteran players and journalists; At least there's more chance they'll be aware of the cut-off than a popular vote of fans would be.
 

Zinzan

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nick-o said:
Who ought to win?

Bear in mind its for the period 1 August 2004 - 31 July 2005

NOMINATIONS

Player of the Year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)
# Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Glenn McGrath (Australia)

Test player of the year
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)
# Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
# Glenn McGrath (Australia)
# Shane Warne (Australia)

One-day player of the year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Brett Lee (Australia)
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
# Andrew Symonds (Australia)

Emerging player of the year
# Aftab Ahmed (Bangladesh)
# Ian Bell (England)
# Dinesh Karthik (India)
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
# AB de Villiers (South Africa)


For me, I reckon Player of the year and Test player of the year ought to be split betwen Kallis and McGrath, with KP either ODI or Emerging Player of the year

Hmmm...What a surprise....no NZer's considered as usual :dry:
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Player of the Year

# Glenn McGrath (Australia)

Test player of the year

# Shane Warne (Australia)

One-day player of the year


# Kevin Pietersen (England)


Emerging player of the year

# AB de Villiers (South Africa)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
nick-o said:
I can't see how Fred-o deserves the ODI award over KP. 464 runs at 38 compared to 786 runs at 87; even adding his bowling -- 25 wkts at 23 -- I can't see how he deserves it.
Because Pietersen only played about half a dozen games in the period - Flintoff played all year.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
zinzan12 said:
Hmmm...What a surprise....no NZer's considered as usual :dry:
So which would you say deserve to be in any of the categories - the only one I could think would be Marhsall in the emerging, but I'm not sure if he meets the criteria.
 

Shoaib

Banned
nick-o said:
Who ought to win?

Bear in mind its for the period 1 August 2004 - 31 July 2005

NOMINATIONS

Player of the Year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)
# Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Glenn McGrath (Australia)

Test player of the year
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)
# Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
# Glenn McGrath (Australia)
# Shane Warne (Australia)

One-day player of the year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)
# Adam Gilchrist (Australia)
# Brett Lee (Australia)
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
# Andrew Symonds (Australia)

Emerging player of the year
# Aftab Ahmed (Bangladesh)
# Ian Bell (England)
# Dinesh Karthik (India)
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
# AB de Villiers (South Africa)
Player of the Year
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)

Test player of the year
# Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan)

One-day player of the year
# Andrew Flintoff (England)

Emerging player of the year
# Kevin Pietersen (England)
 
It would have been good if there were awards for players that haven't been doing great in Cricket. Like poorest player of the year, poorest test cricketer of the year, undeserving test cap earner of the year and chucker of the year.I have fair ideas as to who would have been the winners in such competition of losers :p
 

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