FC cricket around the world.Attendances.

open365 · 08-10-2005, 05:35 AM

What is the state of domestic scenes arund the world in terms of attedences?

in England the 4 day game seems to be largely ignored, is this just and english thing?

SirBloody Idiot · 08-10-2005, 07:21 AM

An Aussie thing as well pretty much, no TV coverage or big attendances from what I've been to.

ING Cup is of course a different story.

Richard · 08-10-2005, 08:10 AM

Domestic-First-Class-cricket is not and can never again be a mass entertainment. Hasn't been since about the 1950s.
And anyone trying to get it to be so again is wasting their time and, more worryingly, their money.
Test-matches and one-day cricket are the spectator branches of the game - plus, obviously, the relatively-new 20-over stuff. Domestic-one-dayers, especially day\night games, clearly have potential and energies should IMO be directed at maximising that. I've never taken a close look at ING\MM\whatever Cup attendances but would be interested if anyone knows of an average figure.

open365 · 08-10-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot

An Aussie thing as well pretty much, no TV coverage or big attendances from what I've been to.

Pura Cup is of course a different story.

whats the format for the pura cup?

is it a knockout comp all the way?

SirBloody Idiot · 08-10-2005, 08:49 AM

Sorry.

Meant ING Cup.

Richard · 08-10-2005, 09:05 AM

So The ING Cup does indeed attract decent audiences?

SirBloody Idiot · 08-10-2005, 09:14 AM

A hell of a lot better than Pura Cup does.

ING Cup doesn't really sell out the WACA a lot, but you get semi decent crowds.

All in all, Aussies don't go to a lot of domestic cricket, bar of course the Twenty20 v. Victoria last year, the WACA was sold out.

Richard · 08-10-2005, 09:17 AM

Oh, I wasn't expecting sell-outs - that's asking way too much for any domestic cricket. Even Twenty20 matches aren't sell-outs that often, even on tiny English grounds.
What sort of crowd figures are we talking for "semi-decent"?

howardj · 08-10-2005, 09:45 AM

I think that's the best role for Twenty20 domestic cricket - to help subsidise the domestic FC game.

Richard · 08-10-2005, 09:46 AM

Yet the point I'm making is that that role could be performed by both Twenty20 Cups and the domestic-one-day game.

howardj · 08-10-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Yet the point I'm making is that that role could be performed by both Twenty20 Cups and the domestic-one-day game.

For sure. Even though I love cricket, I can understand - especially considering that the Test players rarely turn out for their teams - why the public won't go along to domestic FC cricket. By contrast, the less 'cultured' cricket fan loves to see the ball flyin' around, regardless of who is playing - which is what you get in both Domestic One-Day games, and Twenty20.

open365 · 08-10-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by howardj

For sure. Even though I love cricket, I can understand - especially considering that the Test players rarely turn out for their teams - why the public won't go along to domestic FC cricket. By contrast, the less 'cultured' cricket fan loves to see the ball flyin' around, regardless of who is playing - which is what you get in both Domestic One-Day games, and Twenty20.

i think everyone loves to see the ball flying around.

i just don't believe in county cricket,i don't feel any loyalty to my nearest county.

its not like in rugby or football to me where i support my club more than country.

county cricket doesn't have any local derbys or anything,no fierce rivalrys with other clubs or anything.

the roses match?give me a break.

superkingdave · 08-10-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by open365

county cricket doesn't have any local derbys or anything,no fierce rivalrys with other clubs or anything.

the roses match?give me a break.

you don't think the roses matches are fierce rivalries? have you been to OT at all against Yorkshire? do you have any Yorkie friends?

aussie · 08-10-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by superkingdave

you don't think the roses matches are fierce rivalries? have you been to OT at all against Yorkshire? do you have any Yorkie friends?

he couldn't have gone to a rose's clash or else he woudn't have said that

crickhowell · 08-10-2005, 12:58 PM

FC games at the Basin reserve get attendances of 20-30, more than half members

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SirBloody Idiot Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moving the hole in the o-zone layer Posts: 8,442	Sorry. Meant ING Cup.

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Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	So The ING Cup does indeed attract decent audiences?

08-10-2005, 09:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
SirBloody Idiot Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moving the hole in the o-zone layer Posts: 8,442	A hell of a lot better than Pura Cup does. ING Cup doesn't really sell out the WACA a lot, but you get semi decent crowds. All in all, Aussies don't go to a lot of domestic cricket, bar of course the Twenty20 v. Victoria last year, the WACA was sold out.

08-10-2005, 09:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Oh, I wasn't expecting sell-outs - that's asking way too much for any domestic cricket. Even Twenty20 matches aren't sell-outs that often, even on tiny English grounds. What sort of crowd figures are we talking for "semi-decent"?

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,104	I think that's the best role for Twenty20 domestic cricket - to help subsidise the domestic FC game.

08-10-2005, 09:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Yet the point I'm making is that that role could be performed by both Twenty20 Cups and the domestic-one-day game.

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