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    an old subject but

    who are the ideal openers and team for nz in test and odis?

    ODIS

    fleming
    astle
    marshall
    styris
    cairns
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    oram
    mccullum
    vettori
    mills
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    tests

    papps
    fleming
    marshall
    styris
    astle
    oram
    mccullum
    vettori
    franklin
    bond
    martin

    any1 got any thoughts please let me no

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    ODIs - Fleming and Astle.

    Tests - Cumming and Hamish Marshall.

    I think Hamish's technique would make him quite a good opener. Good back foot player and solid defence. Fleming would make a decent opener as well, but he has basically put his foot down now, demanding he play in the middle oder. Cumming has a few faults, but he has a dig and would just mind the spot while How, Ryder etc develop further.
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    yea i wud luv 2 c players like jesse ryder and ross taylor get in2 the fold i also think luke woodcock has a lot of potiental 2 b the nxt jimmy adams

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    I agree that James Marshall shouldn't be there. Unlike Hamish, James has a bad FC record cos he just isn't really that good, imo.

    I also don't really agree with Fleming opening. I do think Papps deserves another go but beyond that I'm stumped. Papps and Cumming perhaps? However, that's really taking up 2 spots for 2 quite mediocre players, and leaving better bats out.

    Also, I don't realistically see Lou Vincent missing out, coming off his recent double hundred and huge innings in the one-dayers v Zimbabwe. As much as I can't stand him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whitedazzler
    who are the ideal openers and team for nz in test and odis?

    ODIS

    fleming
    astle
    marshall
    styris
    cairns
    mcmillan
    oram
    mccullum
    vettori
    mills
    bond
    is there any particular reason why papps shouldnt be in the ODI side given that his record in ODIs is more impressive than tests?
    ideally i'd like fleming to bat at 4 in tests and have papps open the batting in test matches as well.
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    ^ Papps will never play ODI's again for NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    ^ Papps will never play ODI's again for NZ.
    wats wrong wit papps odi record? hes stable and he scores runs?

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    papps is missing out because of another bracewell special
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    is there any particular reason why papps shouldnt be in the ODI side given that his record in ODIs is more impressive than tests?
    ideally i'd like fleming to bat at 4 in tests and have papps open the batting in test matches as well.
    I wouldn't read too much into his oneday record....he's only played a handful of games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS
    ODIs - Fleming and Astle.

    Tests - Cumming and Hamish Marshall.

    I think Hamish's technique would make him quite a good opener. Good back foot player and solid defence. Fleming would make a decent opener as well, but he has basically put his foot down now, demanding he play in the middle oder. Cumming has a few faults, but he has a dig and would just mind the spot while How, Ryder etc develop further.
    Please not Cumming !!!

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    papps is much better than cumming imo, suprised he isnt in the team ahead of him.

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    rnt we all i think the selectors r protecting him since that brett lee ball and due 2 his height or lack off



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