Martyn dropped from test squad - Page 3

greg · 20-09-2005, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

The fact they dropped Martyn from the Test side, I think, is to put him on notice because on form, dropping him from Tests but keeping him in the ODI side is nonsensical. You get the feeling that there were a few more reasons other than performance for dropping him and keeping him in the ODI side seems like they've taken some sort of disciplinary measure because he was sawn-off in three innings in the series and when he did get a decent start, looked solid. It's possible a reason to the two soft dismissals in the second Test might have been noted, for example. I dunno, maybe he didn't appear cut up enough about it all. Certainly he wasn't playing a missing regularly like Hayden or getting out to the same sorts of deliveries like Gilchrist. A decent score, one got the feeling with Martyn, was only around the corner.

How on Earth does one player get 30 innings to score a Test ton and look pretty out of his depth all the way yet another has one bad series with plenty of bad luck to go with it and gets dropped? No, form is only one of the reasons I reckon. And picking Hopes, admittedly a decent prospect with the bat, for Hayden; WTF?

He was sawn off twice, wasn't he? Are you including the runout?

Top_Cat · 20-09-2005, 04:59 AM

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He was sawn off twice, wasn't he? Are you including the runout?

Nope. Wasn't the Hoggard LBW in the first dig of the 4th Test a dodgy one? I didn't see it, only heard about it. Might be mixing it up with something else.

greg · 20-09-2005, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

Nope. Wasn't the Hoggard LBW in the first dig of the 4th Test a dodgy one? I didn't see it, only heard about it. Might be mixing it up with something else.

Second innings at Old Trafford - Bucknor LBW, 1st innings at Trent bridge - Dar LBW.

What was the other?

Linda · 20-09-2005, 05:04 AM

One could probably guess I dont think his axing is particulary fair...

One thing I cant understand is why they showed such faith in him last year, when he was in the worst form of his life, then he has one bad series after 18 months of scoring centuries on auto-pilot and they sack him?! I dont get it.

Still, if they want to face an embarrassing defeat under the title of "Number 1 Team" then go right ahead...

SirBloody Idiot · 20-09-2005, 05:07 AM

Remembering Martyn is 33 Lynda.

They obviously think he hasn't got much more than two years.

Big boost for WA though.

Top_Cat · 20-09-2005, 05:14 AM

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Second innings at Old Trafford - Bucknor LBW, 1st innings at Trent bridge - Dar LBW.

What was the other?

I distinctly remember two dodgy LBW's to two shouts where he got inside nicks. Old Trafford, second dig, Bucknor the umpire maybe? Anyone else help me out? Becuase there were definitely two dodgy LBW's against him in the series.

FaaipDeOiad · 20-09-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

I distinctly remember two dodgy LBW's to two shouts where he got inside nicks. Old Trafford, second dig, Bucknor the umpire maybe? Anyone else help me out? Becuase there were definitely two dodgy LBW's against him in the series.

Read what you just quoted and what you wrote.

Slow Love™ · 20-09-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by greg

Second innings at Old Trafford - Bucknor LBW, 1st innings at Trent bridge - Dar LBW.

What was the other?

Didn't he say first innings of the 4th test? I thought it was the one where he and Ponting got LBW decisions in quick succession when they both edged it onto the pads. Ponting's was barely discernible, but Martyn's was pretty obvious, as far as I remember.

FaaipDeOiad · 20-09-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Love™

Didn't he say first innings of the 4th test? I thought it was the one where he and Ponting got LBW decisions in quick succession when they both edged it onto the pads. Ponting's was barely discernible, but Martyn's was pretty obvious, as far as I remember.

That's the Trent Bridge one.

Slow Love™ · 20-09-2005, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

That's the Trent Bridge one.

LOL, this is like an Abbott and Costello sketch.

Yes, yes it is. 4th test, right?

Top_Cat · 20-09-2005, 05:23 AM

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Read what you just quoted and what you wrote.

Bugger changed his post as I was quoting him.

I'm an analyst, man; I don't do proof-reading.

EDIT: And now I just actually read his post and noticed he said both LBW's; I only saw 'Dar LBW' for some reason.

FYI, like I said, wasn't the Hoggard LBW, first dig, 4th Test, a dodgy?

FaaipDeOiad · 20-09-2005, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Love™

LOL, this is like an Abbott and Costello sketch.

Yes, yes it is. 4th test, right?

Right.

Slow Love™ · 20-09-2005, 05:25 AM

Oh, now I get it - I had thought that greg was arguing that he didn't cop a bad one in the fourth. In my defence, the conversation was somewhat confusing.

Slow Love™ · 20-09-2005, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

FYI, like I said, wasn't the Hoggard LBW, first dig, 4th Test, a dodgy?

Yeah, but his post is acknowledging that one.

Maybe he had something different there before it was edited, and that was the source of the misunderstanding? Otherwise, I blame you.

Linda · 20-09-2005, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot

Remembering Martyn is 33 Lynda.

They obviously think he hasn't got much more than two years.

Big boost for WA though.

Sure, he's 33 but hes nowhere near over the hill.
Plus, if that were the case, whys Hayden still in the Test team?

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Linda International Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Perth, West Aus Posts: 4,705	One could probably guess I dont think his axing is particulary fair... One thing I cant understand is why they showed such faith in him last year, when he was in the worst form of his life, then he has one bad series after 18 months of scoring centuries on auto-pilot and they sack him?! I dont get it. Still, if they want to face an embarrassing defeat under the title of "Number 1 Team" then go right ahead... __________________ "I know I underperformed but after the past 18 months I thought I might have received more than four Test matches' grace." - DR Martyn. "Is there any way to make it longer?" Peter English on Twenty20 Official Face of the v. hip 'Twenty20 Is Boring Society'

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SirBloody Idiot Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moving the hole in the o-zone layer Posts: 8,442	Remembering Martyn is 33 Lynda. They obviously think he hasn't got much more than two years. Big boost for WA though.

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Slow Love™ International Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,079	Oh, now I get it - I had thought that greg was arguing that he didn't cop a bad one in the fourth. In my defence, the conversation was somewhat confusing.

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