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Old 19-09-2005, 07:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Knighthoods In Cricket

In the past, a few great cricketers have been knighted (Sobers, Bradman, Hobbs, Hutton etc.) but I can't remeber anyone being knighted in ages. Is this 'trend' dead, as cricket is not as important a game in the English conciousness anymore? Or could it be revived if the Ashes fever becomes more temporary?

Also which current or recently retired players could you see getting knighted? I think Shane Warne is a real possibility.

EDIT: Just searched Cricinfo for 'sir'. It seems the last player to be knighted was Sir Richard Hadlee in 1990.
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Old 19-09-2005, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Brian Lara's another one.
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Old 19-09-2005, 07:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Shane Warne will not get knighted because he's Australian. Even if he is living in England.
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Old 19-09-2005, 07:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Knighthood means zilch, really.
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Old 19-09-2005, 08:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Shane Warne will not get knighted because he's Australian. Even if he is living in England.
What do you mean? You don't have to be English to be knighted.
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Old 19-09-2005, 09:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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But I think Australia, and also NZ, have dropped knighthoods in favour of their own honours, ONZM for NZ for example.
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Getting knighted is still pretty cool though.
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Old 19-09-2005, 10:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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But I think Australia, and also NZ, have dropped knighthoods in favour of their own honours, ONZM for NZ for example.
But does it preclude an Australian from being knighted? It is England giving the status, not Australia.

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But does it preclude an Australian from being knighted? It is England giving the status, not Australia.
Yes they are not allowed to except them, the same as some Countries in the WI Clive Lloyd could not be given one for instance.
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Old 19-09-2005, 11:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i dont like the NZOM, id feel it a much greater honnour to be recognised to the extent of being knighted by the queen than being recognised by Helen Clarks friends. Also more people that merit a knighthood can be recognised, there can only be about 12 people in the NZ order of merit.
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Old 20-09-2005, 01:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What do you mean? You don't have to be English to be knighted.
I'm not sure.

I think they can have honorary knighthoods (such as the likes of Spike Milligan, Bob Geldof and Bill Gates)
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Old 20-09-2005, 01:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If recent trend is anything to go by, Her Majesty the Queen seems to prefer giving knighthoods to coaches rather than the players when English teams have done well - Sir Alex Ferguson , Sir Clive Woodward ....etc...

whereas David Beckham and Johnny Wilkinson had to settle for mere MBEs and OBEs.

Ian Botham for istance has failed to go beyond the OBE mark !!

My guess is that if this trend continues - we could see Sir Duncan Fletcher the next sporting knight hood for winning the Ashes for England perhaps , while Freddie and Vaughan may have to settle for MBEs !!

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Old 20-09-2005, 02:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That is typical thing about England, win a major tournament and the coach gets a knighthood even though England have done stuff all since. Bit of an over-reaction IMO.

They give out OBEs, MBEs, CBEs in brown paper bags. I mean it looks nice and I'm sure it is lavish occassion but as CC they mean much all.
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