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    The real victim Saurav or Chappell

    When I saw the famous interview that Saurav gave on that day, I didnt give much thought to it till all the TV channels and newspapers the next day had made a big story and told me what was there between the lines. Well its sad to see the cracks in Team India. I still remember the great Indian huddle in the world cup last year. How that one act demonstrated the close bond shared by the team members. But then what is the true story? Is Chappell really the devil as this story makes him out to be? Or is Ganguly the culprit as this article implies? Whatever the real story the victim has been Indian cricket. It had just emerged from the match-fixing mess to sink lower into the morass of petty personality fights. The great Indian huddle has changed to the great India wrestling hold. Can we have just plain vanilla cricket entertainment without these facny movie ingredients of drama, suspense, emotional thriller etc. As a cricket fan the current state of affairs saddens me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rohansen
    When I saw the famous interview that Saurav gave on that day, I didnt give much thought to it till all the TV channels and newspapers the next day had made a big story and told me what was there between the lines. Well its sad to see the cracks in Team India. I still remember the great Indian huddle in the world cup last year. How that one act demonstrated the close bond shared by the team members. But then what is the true story? Is Chappell really the devil as this story makes him out to be? Or is Ganguly the culprit as this article implies? Whatever the real story the victim has been Indian cricket. It had just emerged from the match-fixing mess to sink lower into the morass of petty personality fights. The great Indian huddle has changed to the great India wrestling hold. Can we have just plain vanilla cricket entertainment without these facny movie ingredients of drama, suspense, emotional thriller etc. As a cricket fan the current state of affairs saddens me.
    Indeed, the true victim is Indian cricket. But Chappell is trying to instill discipline and make this a team based on performance. He tried to convey what he thought would be best for Ganguly's interests at this point, but Ganguly was too immature and proud to listen to the advice quietly. He's clearly insecure when it comes to his place in the team.

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    Exactly how is it in Ganguly's best interests (as a player) to not be playing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Exactly how is it in Ganguly's best interests (as a player) to not be playing?
    From what I heard, Chappell said removing the responsibilities of captaincy may help Ganguly focus on fixing his batting. I've always been a Ganguly supporter, but he's no longer performing and the team is bigger than the individual.

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    Yes, but from reports I've seen, Chappell told him that he shouldn't even be in the team.

    Which prompted my initial question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Yes, but from reports I've seen, Chappell told him that he shouldn't even be in the team.

    Which prompted my initial question.
    yeah that's a problem when you don't know which reports are accurate and which ones are a big load of bull ... i think chappell had the right idea (strict, performance-based selection) but the wrong kind of impulsive action. ganguly wasnt faultless though: as the captain, he should be mature enough to take chappell's suggestion and not get so publicly perturbed by it. if he has confidence in his abilities as captain and his return to form, he should accept chappell's suggestion as the reality and try to earn his place in the team.

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    the only advise i would give you is DO NOT BELIEVE everything you read. You clearly have 2 differing views from 2 different angles,you now have to work out who'm to believe,but dont base it on the 2 articles and then form an opinion.
    the truth will come out in the end and one person will stand proud while the other will make excuses.
    However both ways the loser will be INDIAN cricket.and that is a crying shame as they should be now competing with Eng ,and Aus,as the top teams in world cricket.They need to sort out the mess and quick smart.IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric
    Indeed, the true victim is Indian cricket. But Chappell is trying to instill discipline and make this a team based on performance. He tried to convey what he thought would be best for Ganguly's interests at this point, but Ganguly was too immature and proud to listen to the advice quietly. He's clearly insecure when it comes to his place in the team.
    I was going to leave it with my last post but felt i needed to say something that i believe true.
    India approached chappell to coach knowing that he was a man who will make the tough decisions.He is as honest as the day is long,and for years ,See 60 minutes in 2000, he has said he thinks that with the amount of players to pick from in indian cricket,there is no reason why this team should not be No 1 and on the worst years no 2. He said Australias dominance can be shattered by india getting there act together,they are the sleeping giant and all they needed was strong guidence instead of all factions wanting to rule the roost.this was years before he was appointed coach.
    They have appointed the man,they must have the courage of their convictions now and follow what he believes is the right path for indian crickets sake. The article that slams chappell reads full of venom to me ,every story is very anti chappell, but saying things about a stubborn aussie should not come into it, What has chappells heritage got to do with anything,it appears someone has an axe to grind. I say change the coach,leave the captain,stay as is ,and leave India at number 3 or 4 in world cricket. For the longer this nation does not get its act together the longer England and Australia will rule the roost. A tough coach makes tough decissions,and must stand by them or perish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz
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    Who's the victim?

    No-one..

    Two strong, aggressive personalities clashing. That's all there is to it. Anyone looking at the two parties will understand something like this was bound to happen..

    That's all it is.. Nothing more..

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    Honestly, I see this as just the tip of the iceberg. I am afraid all hell is going to break loose during the performance review of the Indian team which starts on september 25.
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    http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/india...ry/219486.html

    An anti Ganguly article from cricinfo.
    Last edited by chalky; 18-09-2005 at 01:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja moo
    No, its the other way round.
    And how is that ?? I have clearly said on a no. of occasions that Ganguly doesn't deserve to be in the team either as a player or as a captain ? Let me guess that must make me a Ganguly supporter, doesn't it ?

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