Australia's Post Ashes Blueprint

[PY]

Lee will hopefully go onto better things after this series. Occasionally in the series he looked like he'd but then he'd do what he did during Pietersen's ton and get smacked with ease. A bowler bowling 95+mph should NOT be hit with such ease.

When I met up with Andre and watched the morning session when Lee was bruising Pietersen up pretty bad, he said that the bouncer that struck KP on the glove and went over the slips was one of the best he'd ever seen and I'm inclined to agree.

He's got a great bouncer, great yorker but doesn't seem to have much in between. What would you say is Lee's stock delivery or does he not have one? I agree, considering how dangerous he looked at some stages, he shouldn't have gone for so many runs like he did.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

He should bowl on or just outside off, aiming to hit the top of off, interceded with the odd yorker, bouncer and slower ball.

Easier said than done though.

 

[greg]

When I met up with Andre and watched the morning session when Lee was bruising Pietersen up pretty bad, he said that the bouncer that struck KP on the glove and went over the slips was one of the best he'd ever seen and I'm inclined to agree.

He's got a great bouncer, great yorker but doesn't seem to have much in between. What would you say is Lee's stock delivery or does he not have one? I agree, considering how dangerous he looked at some stages, he shouldn't have gone for so many runs like he did.

KP was a genius! I was listening to Sky highlights the other day and it was very funny to hear Mikey Holding in the commentary box saying that it was inevitable that Pietersen got the bouncer barrage before and after lunch after the meal he made of being hit in the ribs.

The bouncer barrage is now being credited as the period which ultimately cost the match for Australia

 

[Top_Cat]

What would you say is Lee's stock delivery or does he not have one? I agree, considering how dangerous he looked at some stages, he shouldn't have gone for so many runs like he did.

When he's reverted to 'old Lee' he's been pumelled. Witness Lee's post-lunch spell in the most recent Test. When he's bowled just outside off-stump, short-of-a-length, he's looked very dangerous. Witness Lee's spell in the second Test when he clean-bowled Vaughan in the midst of his best spell of the series. Sometimes when he bowls yorkers and bouncers, he's successful but against confident, attacking batsmen who are in form such as Pietersen and Flintoff, he's an expensive team-member.

That was a damn fine bumper, yes, but did you see how much it lifted?!? That was the deck as much as it was well-pitched.

The bouncer barrage is now being credited as the period which ultimately cost the match for Australia

Some will say it cost the series too but in reality, they didn't deserve to retain the Ashes.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Mitchell Johnson is 24 and averages 36 in Pura Cup Career, yep i am really scared that he going to win the ashes back from us

Simon Jones averages in the 30s in the CC too. Anyway, Mitchell Johnson hasn't even played 10 games, so I don't know why you're bringing up his average, as it's totally irrelevant.

 

[Ikki]

I think what turned the game back to England's favour was Warne's drop of Pieterson's. If that had been caught it there would have been backbreaking momentum in favour of the Aussies. Regardless of his drop, Warne is a legend, you can't say anything less.

 

[aussie]

Simon Jones averages in the 30s in the CC too. Anyway, Mitchell Johnson hasn't even played 10 games, so I don't know why you're bringing up his average, as it's totally irrelevant.

word, same thing people were saying about tait after his dismall performances for Durham in CC last year & he came on well.....

 

[Barney Rubble]

You don't consider Harmi and Lee to be 'what the hell was that' quick?!??!

The expression was just a means of expressing "quicker than the two of them" - for the record, if I faced either Harmy or Lee, I'd certainly be asking "what the hell was that"!

 

[marc71178]

word, same thing people were saying about tait after his dismall performances for Durham in CC last year & he came on well.....

Well, he came on.

At times he did look ordinary, and at times he bowled very well.

Certainly was criminally underbowled on Monday though.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Certainly was criminally underbowled on Monday though.

I certainly don't think it looks like Ponting rates him very highly. He doesn't seem to trust him not to haemorrhage runs - he only uses him when he's tried the other three for ages and not got a wicket, or in the first innings when the game is still up in the air.

He can't improve if he doesn't bowl, though - and if Ponting's never going to use him in the second innings, they'd be better off just picking someone else, even if it's Gillespie.

 

[tooextracool]

Bracken will be there. I`m serious, he`ll play in the next Ashes IMO.

so there isnt much doubt that we will be the better team by then....

 

[tooextracool]

Simon Jones averages in the 30s in the CC too.

his record from 2001 is a lot better, and it would have helped if he didnt break down after every few games.

 

[aussie]

I certainly don't think it looks like Ponting rates him very highly.

naaaaaaa the only reason he was undebowled so much on the last day is because of what was at stake a Punters would have been always looking at Pigeon & Warne mainly plus lee to get most of the wickets....

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

his record from 2001 is a lot better, and it would have helped if he didnt break down after every few games.

Maybe so, I was simply making the point that you can't write someone off when they average over 30 after half a dozen first class games at the start of their career.

 

[Craig]

Not sure. Like Tait, he's never been clocked in domestic cricket. The fastest bowlers in Australian cricket right now excluding Lee are generally considered to be Tait, Johnson and Bird though (although Bird is currently having his action remodelled because he was chucking it and might come out slower). Tait, as we've seen is certainly Lee pace and maybe capable of being even quicker. I would say at a guess that Johnson is more in the Harmison spectrum, but it's quite hard to say, and he's a bit injury prone so might slow down anyway.

I wouldn't say he's much like Tait really, he's more like a young left-arm Lee, except he is probably a bit slower and has better height (in terms of release point) because of his big jump and action. His problem is definately accuracy right now anyway. Once he starts playing regularly for Queensland we'll get a better idea of how good he is.

If Johnson stops getting injured then he will start getting a game (then again this state has a reputation of being the one place not to be if your a fast bowler and wanting a regular game).

 

[Craig]

Seriously I'm starting to wonder if Nnanden is in love with Nathan Bracken?

 

[age_master]

So where's the bowling attack then?

And to send Lee up would then mean Katich at 9?

3 specialists, Hussey, Watson, Symonds and Clarke - Symonds and Watson would usually bowl a fair few overs.

 

[marc71178]

naaaaaaa the only reason he was undebowled so much on the last day is because of what was at stake a Punters would have been always looking at Pigeon & Warne mainly plus lee to get most of the wickets....

So in other words he didn't rate Tait enough then!

 

[marc71178]

3 specialists, Hussey, Watson, Symonds and Clarke - Symonds and Watson would usually bowl a fair few overs.

20 overs from part-timers is at least 10 too many (and in all honesty none of those are front-line bowlers at the highest level)

With that batting it's easy to play an extra bowler in place of Katich (who coming in at 8 is probably a sillier option that what they've been doing to Watson)

 

[Barney Rubble]

So in other words he didn't rate Tait enough then!

My point exactly!