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Thread: Is Pietersen " hubris" ? Geoff Boycott thinks so!

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    Is Pietersen " hubris" ? Geoff Boycott thinks so!

    Watching Channel 4 discussion during the rain interruptions , I saw this discussion between Mark Nicholas, Tony Greig and Geoff Boycott about KP . The discussion was about Boycott's description of KP in one of English Newspaper sports columns as "Hubris".

    For those who do not know the meaning of this word - (I admit I learnt this word only after watching this discussion) - From MSN Encarta dictionary

    hubris

    hu·bris [ hybriss ]
    noun
    Definitions:
    1. pride: excessive pride or arrogance
    2. excessive ambition: the excessive pride and ambition that usually leads to the downfall of a hero in classical tragedy
    [Late 19th century. < Greek]
    hu·bris·tic [ hyoo brístik ]adj


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    It's youthful cockiness.. Like Maverick in Top Gun...

    It doesn't fall into any of the poll options for me. Therefore I will withold my vote..

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    I'd like to vote for 'yes,' but I also think Boycott is nuts, so which should I choose?
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    its a big yes from me
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    No point being cocky until he backs it up with some good performances, particularly in the field
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameeel
    No point being cocky until he backs it up with some good performances, particularly in the field
    He's batted pretty well this series. Although that shot he played to Warne was an absolute shocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc
    He's batted pretty well this series. Although that shot he played to Warne was an absolute shocker.
    True, his batting has been good, but his fielding has been absolutely shocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameeel
    No point being cocky until he backs it up with some good performances, particularly in the field
    Stop being so negative mate. He's been awesome with the bat for one.

    And his performance in South Africa. Absolutely mind blowing. He saved Englands ars#s a number of times. When the going gets tough, the tough get going..

    The guy's a champ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shounak
    Stop being so negative mate. He's been awesome with the bat for one.

    And his performance in South Africa. Absolutely mind blowing. He saved Englands ars#s a number of times. When the going gets tough, the tough get going..

    The guy's a champ..
    See post #7....

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    Isn't it a bit ironic for Boycott to accuse anybody of hubris?

    Anyhow, I don't see it really. He's a confidence player who has already done some amazing things in international cricket in a very short space of time. He's quite young, and it's probably more the case that some of the older English players need to get in his ear a bit about his concentration.

    His catching problems have obviously escalated after the first couple, and if anything, it's a bit of a lack of confidence in that area that's causing problems, rather than arrogant disregard.
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    Much the same as Tait's fielding problems, you just gotta keep reminding yourself what you did wrong and learn from it

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    Nothing wrong with a bit of self-belief IMHO. I do wish sometimes he'd play slightly more circumspectly against Warne when he first comes on tho. I guess it's because they're mates & all, but with the way he attacks Warne it looks as if he views him as a personal challenge to be smashed out of the attack.

    The catching is a worry and rather strange too because, where you to ask me before the test series, I'd have had him down as one of our best fielders.
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    Pietersen has bucketloads of talent, but some serious problems he has to work out before he can be a long-term test success, particularly with his off-side shots and his tendancy to try and invent strokes to every ball when he doesn't need to in test cricket. If he can sort those out, he's going to be a phenomenal player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    The catching is a worry and rather strange too because, where you to ask me before the test series, I'd have had him down as one of our best fielders.
    Exactly! Remember the whole "You can't keep him out of the game" saga where he was fielding brilliantly in the ODI matches. He, other than Collingwood was probably England's best fieldder. Quite odd.
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    His ground fielding has still been pretty good - just the catching has been terrible.

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