Golden Oldies vs Gilded Youth

[open365]

the over 30 side would win comfortably but in 5 years time when the -30 team are now the +30 would they still win?

i think the over 30 team would have beat the over 30s team when they where -30 though.

confusing....

[Jono]

Originally Posted by open365

the over 30 side would win comfortably but in 5 years time when the -30 team are now the +30 would they still win?

i think the over 30 team would have beat the over 30s team when they where -30 though.

confusing....

Lol true. Sachin was in far better tough and playing in a more aggressive nature, Pollock was in his prime and McGrath was fitter. Vaughan was also in that golden patch of his too.

[Barney Rubble]

Why don't we construct an Under-25s team and see if they'd beat the current Under-30s when the Under-30s become the over-30s?

GC Smith*
AB De Villiers+
MJ Clarke

Errrrmm.....

Help me, I'm stuck.

[open365]

Bell?(he's 24 isn't he?)
Ali cook(well maybe not)
taibu(see above)
matt prior

its amazing how old cricketers mature theese days isnt it?

[Jono]

Yeah its a bit of a stretch, I was going to say Taibu. You'd have to put Pathan in there I guess. Tait's younger than 25 isn't he? Umm, not sure of Malinga's age, maybe him.

Yes its quite tough. Amazing considering Sachin debuted at what, 17 or 18. Something like that.

[Barney Rubble]

There seems to be a lot of players around that are earmarked for Test stardom at around 18-20 (Clarke, Bell, Tait, Cook, De Villiers), but most of them are left to gain more experience in FC cricket these days. Bell was nearly thrown into Test cricket on the last Ashes tour in Oz, Tait went to SL, Cook is captain of the A side, Clarke was in the wings for so long waiting for Lehmann to retire - ABDeV is the only one to be thrown in early. It just seems like because the stakes in Test cricket are so high these days, teams are less reluctant to throw in young players when there's a chance they may not be ready.

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by Jono

Yep definitely. All we're saying is 32 would even it up a bit. You'd have Dravid, Ponting, Vaughan and Tendulkar Akhtar/Bond and Pollockjump over to the other side

But would they all get in?

I have my doubts.

[BoyBrumby]

I reckon the under-25s would struggle to be competitive. I've picked what I think is the best XI, but wouldn't make any great claims for it. Too many rabbits for one, Mortaza comes in at 9! Others I overlooked (Steyn, Tait, Edwards) would hardly strengthen the batting either.

I guess McCullum could keep & you could play De Villiers as a specialist bat, but that would weaken the bowling.

1. Taufeeq Umar (24)
2. G Smith* (24)
3. J Rudolph (24)
4. I Bell (23)
5. M Clarke (24)
6. AB De Villiers+ (21)
7. D Bravo (21)
8. I Pathan (24)
9. M Mortaza (21)
10. D Kaneria (24)
11. S Malinga (22)

[Barney Rubble]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

I reckon the under-25s would struggle to be competitive. I've picked what I think is the best XI, but wouldn't make any great claims for it. Too many rabbits for one, Mortaza comes in at 9! Others I overlooked (Steyn, Tait, Edwards) would hardly strengthen the batting either.

I guess McCullum could keep & you could play De Villiers as a specialist bat, but that would weaken the bowling.

1. Taufeeq Umar (24)
2. G Smith* (24)
3. J Rudolph (24)
4. I Bell (23)
5. M Clarke (24)
6. AB De Villiers+ (21)
7. D Bravo (21)
8. I Pathan (24)
9. M Mortaza (21)
10. D Kaneria (24)
11. S Malinga (22)

Personally I'd have Tait ahead of Malinga and on current form I'd not include Rudolph - I wasn't too impressed with him when England toured SA. Perhaps James Marshall in for him? Or is he too old?

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble

Personally I'd have Tait ahead of Malinga and on current form I'd not include Rudolph - I wasn't too impressed with him when England toured SA. Perhaps James Marshall in for him? Or is he too old?

Hamish is 26, so as they're twins....

I agree Rudolph has been rather average lately, but it's kinda Hobson's choice. Devon Smith, maybe?

[Barney Rubble]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Hamish is 26, so as they're twins....

I agree Rudolph has been rather average lately, but it's kinda Hobson's choice. Devon Smith, maybe?

I considered adding him to my provisional III to make it a IV, but he got dropped from the WI side for the last Test against England, and I hadn't heard anything about his form since then.

Maybe he was affected by the fact that, mistaking him for Dwayne Bravo, who scored 50-odd, I said "well batted" when I saw him after last year's Lord's Test. He had scored a shaky 5 off about 20 balls - he gave me a look like he thought I was being sarcastic and rubbing it in!

[Jono]

Originally Posted by marc71178

But would they all get in?

I have my doubts.

I answered that later in my post.

"Here's a question. If we had it 32+, with those that I have already mentioned jumping into the other team (or just simply not being valid) who would be the replacements? Inzy? Martyn? Atapattu? Astle? Hayden?"

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

I guess McCullum could keep & you could play De Villiers as a specialist bat, but that would weaken the bowling.

Use De Villiers' bowling then!

[age_master]

Originally Posted by SJS

My oldies side would be
Langer,
Vaughan,
Dravid,
Tendulkar,
Lara,
Gilchrist
Warne
Pollock
MCGrath
Akhtar
Murali

12th Man Ponting

McGrath at 9

[andyc]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Under 30 XI
Sehwag (26)
Strauss (28)
G Smith* (24)
Kallis (29)
Younis Khan (26)
Sangakkara+ (27)
Flintoff (27)
Vettori (26)
Lee (28)
Harmison (26)
S Jones (26)

30 & Over XI
Langer (34)
Vaughan* (30)
Dravid (32)
Ponting (30)
Tendulkar (32)
Lara (36)
Gilchrist+ (33)
Pollock (32)
Warne (35)
Akhtar (30)
McGrath (35)

It's interesting to see you've got 5 Aussies in the over 30s, but only one under 30