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    Thommo comes across as a bloody red neck, who tries to be really blunt.

    Anyway, RE McGrath and Lillee...yeah well I may have been wrong about McGrath having no blemishes in his career stats, but he still has Lillee covered on every statistical measure (average, economy rate etc), and lead the attack of an all conquering team for more than a decade.
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    Thompson's just a wild and woolly larrikin from what I've seen/heard about him, out of the Symonds mould. If he likes you, then he'll stand up for you at any time; if he's got no time for you, then you'll know about it, and probably hate him. Lazy as, couldn't give a stuff.
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    That's a nice article on Gilly. I must say that reading his autobiography, his self-doubt at the highest level really did come through pretty clearly.

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    I guess it was a different era really, could you imagine a gun keeper batsman being forced to leave his state now for some plodding fat ass who will never play test cricket? And yes i know Emery played one test........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikki View Post
    If Tendulkar can be compared to The Don then Warne is better
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    so, it's going to be:

    warne
    bradman
    lillee
    gilchrist
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    no......Warne comes after the Don of course

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    not sure about that. the last part of the article linked seems to suggest that personal biases might just end up leading to a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    My take at the top 25 Aussies:

    Don Bradman, Keith Miller, Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath, Greg Chappell,
    Bill O'Reilly, Dennis Lillee, Ricky Ponting, Allan Border, Steve Waugh,
    Clarrie Grimmet, Adam Gilchrist, Alan Davidson, Ray Lindwall,
    Charlie Turner,
    Fred Spofforth, Victor Trumper, Monty Noble, Jack Gregory, Mathew Hayden,
    Hugh Trumble, Stan McCabbe, Neil Harvey, Warwick Armstrong, Richie Benaud

    That's a serious amount of genius coming from one country! Hope, I haven't left out anyone obvious
    I was thinking about your list today. The 18 names I've bolded are certainties in my top 25, the other 7 while great, do have competition.

    In the end my 25 would include Hayden, Benaud, Noble (so 21 of your 25) but I would also include Walters, Ponsford, Tallon and Morris.

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    Those that won't make the top 25 with specialities in ODIs:

    Bevan, Symonds and maybe Hussey.

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    Actually, out of curiosity, how far do people think Hussey is from this list?
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    He can't be too far off really, not many Aussies with that number of tests and a 50+ average. Most batsman goes through a form slump, i don't know why people focus on the slump for some batsman yet excuse it for others. Champion player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    Thommo comes across as a bloody red neck, who tries to be really blunt.

    Anyway, RE McGrath and Lillee...yeah well I may have been wrong about McGrath having no blemishes in his career stats, but he still has Lillee covered on every statistical measure (average, economy rate etc), and lead the attack of an all conquering team for more than a decade.
    If you include WSC and World XI tests then Lillee is slightly faster taker but slightly more expensive. It's very close on that statistical front. What hinders Lillee is not playing enough in the SC and not having a nicely packaged record. Regardless, even his contemporaries call him the greatest fast bowler of all time. And Lillee, when he had the teammates, also had a fantastic winning run. Indeed, that's what many would consider a strength - that Lillee was awesome when he had partners and when he didn't.

    It's just false to paint it as if McGrath is that much better than Lillee that it's not a contest. Either way, Lillee or McGrath, the difference is very very slight.


    Quote Originally Posted by hang on View Post
    not sure about that. the last part of the article linked seems to suggest that personal biases might just end up leading to a surprise.
    You'd have to be biased to the point of hatred/idol-worship to consider Warne, or anyone ever, better than The Don.
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