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    Suppose no Grimmett the biggest omission. Dizzy slightly harshly done by given Garth McKenzie made it in too.

    Monty Noble and The Big Ship, especially if leadership is highly prized by the electorate, probably has cases too.
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    Yeah Benaud is being over-rated IMO. He averaged above 30 against both England and the West Indies. I would imagine old-timers like Spofforth and Turner would rank above him.

    Clem Hill is perhaps worth a place as well..

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    Hayden too.

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    McGrath, Chappell, Trumper and Tiger all a few notches lower than they should be IMO. Richie, much as I love him, too high.

    Miller too low as well for mine - I have him top 3. But then, I guess I would wouldn't I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbacks View Post
    The Age is runnning the 'Cricketer's top 25' at the moment (better named Bradman and the next 24).

    The greatest of all time? Our cricketers decide - The Age - Melbourne

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    The players value 'leadership', 'good bloke' etc more highly than outsiders in general.

    Miller Comes in at 5:
    In praise of the, ahem, all-rounder - Chapelli - The Age - Melbourne
    With these 20 the five to come would have Bradman, Wane, Lillee and GrimmettI I guess and since Gilchrist is missing in the 6 to 25 list I guess he will fill the last spot although that is surprisingly high.

    I realise that not many here think Grimmett is that high but then . . .

    Of course I could be proved completely wrong for there are some surprise in the order, if not the contents of the 20 listed . . .
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    forgetting Keith Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    forgetting Keith Miller.
    He's number five.

    So there'll be no Turner, McCartney or Armstrong by the looks of it. itstl
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    pretty sure it'll be something like this then-

    1.Bradman
    2.Warne
    3.Lillee
    4. Gilly

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    Good to see AB getting the respect he deserves too.

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    Can never understand Lillee ahead of McGrath in these things

    Lillee had an aura yes, but geez McGrath is one of the only cricketers with blemish-free statistics

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Suppose no Grimmett the biggest omission. Dizzy slightly harshly done by given Garth McKenzie made it in too.

    Monty Noble and The Big Ship, especially if leadership is highly prized by the electorate, probably has cases too.
    Voting probably rewards the guys who were the pre-eminent player of their time, with it being all former players. Garth was the leader of the attack throughout his career (IIRC), as opposed to Gillespie - so if the player has to spread their votes around, then you're not likely to vote for the second best pacer of an era (especially if you didn't play in that era).

    Peter McIntyre stiff to miss out...

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    Bryce McGain yet to come?

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    McCabe too low. Davidson and Richie should probably be the other way around for on-field performances but as we all know Richie is much more than just a legspinner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbacks View Post
    The Age is runnning the 'Cricketer's top 25' at the moment (better named Bradman and the next 24).

    The greatest of all time? Our cricketers decide - The Age - Melbourne

    The Results so far:


    The players value 'leadership', 'good bloke' etc more highly than outsiders in general.

    Miller Comes in at 5:
    In praise of the, ahem, all-rounder - Chapelli - The Age - Melbourne
    The omission of Grimmett is pretty striking to me. I thought he must've made the top five with Bradman, Lillee, Warne and Gilchrist when I first read the article, but then realised Miller was missing. First man to 200 test wickets (and still the only one to do it in less than 40 tests), 7 ten-fers in 37 tests, averaging 6 wickets per match, inventor of the flipper, inaugural inductee in the Australian Cricket Hall of Fame. Freak I think is the word you're looking for.

    I can see how it would happen with each person having to pick 5 players (I don't know if I'd have him in my top 5 either), but if he's not one of the best 25 players to play for Australia I'll give it up.

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    yeah, he's also a commentator who should have retired about 10 years ago

    hope he's not back again this summer

    sorry, but you opened the door lol

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