Ponting won't let it rest.

[honestbharani]

They've just played the interview, which was with a station called (I think) Melbourne 3AW, on Radio 5 Live in the Uk. He did indeed say it was "against the spirit of the game which we are trying to uphold". He didn't use the word "disgrace."
It appears as though England coach Duncan Fletcher was on the balcony waving as Ricky Ponting left the field. He took this as a deliberate act of provocation as Fletcher knew the Aussie view of the abuse of the substitute fielding regulations.

It is funny to hear Ponting say that he is trying to uphold the spirit of the game. W2g, Punter. More shouting at the dressing room and umpires is the way to uphold the famous cricket spirit.

 

[honestbharani]

Yes, but the umpire has to be satisfied by the reason, and the laws state that things going off for things like a change of clothes or a rest is fine, but you won't be replaced by a sub. You only get a sub if your fielder is incapable of fielding.

so what if Freddie, Harmo, Jones and Hoggard have a congenital situation of having to go to the loo after every spell... Then they certainly become incapable of fielding and therefore, a sub can come in.

 

[dinu23]

It is funny to hear Ponting say that he is trying to uphold the spirit of the game. W2g, Punter. More shouting at the dressing room and umpires is the way to uphold the famous cricket spirit.

lol

 

[Slats4ever]

It is funny to hear Ponting say that he is trying to uphold the spirit of the game. W2g, Punter. More shouting at the dressing room and umpires is the way to uphold the famous cricket spirit.

It has been well documented that Ponting and co expressed their concerns earlier in the series time and time again with the match officials but nothing was done about it. That really left him with no other outlet other than to letting his feelings be known on the stage.

Whilst many think it shows a kink in Ponting's personality I feel it shows a major problem with the governing body in not listening to captains.

 

[marc71178]

If a bowler is injured, needs a toilet break, or even needs to get restrapped, thats fine. If he's just going in there to take a break and put his legs up ,that's ridicilious. If it was allowed, it's a significant advantage to the home side.

Sorry, but if they're allowed a maximum of 8 minutes off the ptich - how much of a "putting their feet up" are they actually getting?

A couple of minutes or so - what an advantage (!)

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Funny how when the boot's on the other foot there's a major outcry isn't it?

Which boot is that? I don't know of any other international coach who makes a habit of provoking the oppositon captain on the field of play.

 

[Slats4ever]

Sorry, but if they're allowed a maximum of 8 minutes off the ptich - how much of a "putting their feet up" are they actually getting?

A couple of minutes or so - what an advantage (!)

just watch out warnie might start using it for a smoko break pretty soon.

Looks at Watch.... Looks at Amy (gf)... Goes over to Amy... Back in 7 minutes...

Lots you can do in 8 minutes.

 

[greg]

Firstly, I'm still not convinced that drafting in one decent fielder will make a huge difference. Yes Ponting was run-out by Pratt but that was a poor choice of a run and is the only example so far in the series where a decent sub fielder has actually made a significant contribution to the game.

Also, if you select one guy as a specialist fielder, you deny the opportunity of a player you actually want in the side to be 12th man and feel part of the squad. As such, I don't think bringing in a specialist fielder would actually be wide-spread. The disadvantages are only slightly outweighed by the advantages.

So again, why does enforcing the rule actually matter and if both sides can sub their 12th man at will and give the bowlers a break, why not allow it?

If you required England to use a "proper" 12th man then that guy would never get to play any cricket all summer! Strangely despite all the complaints even Australia do not stick to this policy at home.

 

[Scaly piscine]

It has been well documented that Ponting and co expressed their concerns earlier in the series time and time again with the match officials but nothing was done about it. That really left him with no other outlet other than to letting his feelings be known on the stage.

Whilst many think it shows a kink in Ponting's personality I feel it shows a major problem with the governing body in not listening to captains.

Ponting is basically criticising the umpires' decisions in public, ones which he has no right of appeal to, this is not on and it's about time crybaby Ponting got an immediate suspended ban.

 

[Deja moo]

Catherterise all the English bowlers and strap the draining pouches to their inner thighs.

 

[Top_Cat]

If you required England to use a "proper" 12th man then that guy would never get to play any cricket all summer! Strangely despite all the complaints even Australia do not stick to this policy at home.

Yes but that's only because of the side playing well and with no injuries (about to change). Same as it is for any team, including Australia; remember the infamous summers where Kasper and Bichel were perennial 12th men and didn't get to play for QLD because of it?

As I said, even if you picked a specialist fielder, the advantage to allowing players to spend some time off the field isn't great enough to get up-in-arms about. Certainly, making it illegal under the laws just seems way over the top for the modern game. There's one rule that needs some work.

 

[magsi23]

If that was Pakistan, India or Sri LAnka captain, he would have been banned for few test matches.

 

[magsi23]

Ponting is basically criticising the umpires' decisions in public, ones which he has no right of appeal to, this is not on and it's about time crybaby Ponting got an immediate suspended ban.

Very well Said

 

[age_master]

Yes but that's only because of the side playing well and with no injuries (about to change). Same as it is for any team, including Australia; remember the infamous summers where Kasper and Bichel were perennial 12th men and didn't get to play for QLD because of it?

As I said, even if you picked a specialist fielder, the advantage to allowing players to spend some time off the field isn't great enough to get up-in-arms about. Certainly, making it illegal under the laws just seems way over the top for the modern game. There's one rule that needs some work.

yeah i remember the last Sydney test where Kaspa was 12th man, we gave him a massive cheer every time he fielded the ball, he was only on the field for about 15 mins the whole day mind you.

picking the specialist fielder wont always give you much of an advantage, this time it did though.

 

[age_master]

Catherterise all the English bowlers and strap the draining pouches to their inner thighs.

that would work as long as they didn't slide around the outfield.... maybe than they would deserve to go off the firld for a couple of minutes

 

[luckyeddie]

If that was Pakistan, India or Sri LAnka captain, he would have been banned for few test matches.

Don't start that nonsense again, or you will be in BIG trouble.

 

[Slow Love™]

Ponting should really cease making public proclamations about this. If he wants to keep pursuing this through official channels, fine, but:

a) it's not that big an issue, and generally if you hit a ball to a fielder on the full or you tap straight to a fielder and run, you should expect there's a reasonable chance of being dismissed, and

b) his continuing carping about it might backfire like it once did Michael Slater, seeing as his penalty may be seen as lenient by some, and the ICC may see this as further criticism of the match's authorities.

 

[age_master]

i wouldn't complain too much if he got replaced as captain personally

 

[Langeveldt]

Its hilarious, i fell ashamed to have supported Ricky during his spell here at Taunton, and I hope the guy doesnt come back, ever.. To be honest coming from the country that produced Hughes, Hogg, and "What does Lara's **** taste like" McGrath, maybe he should be slightly more discreet with his gripes about the way England play cricket.. ? I agree he has a point, but hes going the wrong way about making it

 

[Langeveldt]

Don't start that nonsense again, or you will be in BIG trouble.

the problem is, he is actually right...