If chapple had played a few ODI's or a test or so a few years ago, i don't think he would have done any worse than some of the players England have picked over the years.
If chapple had played a few ODI's or a test or so a few years ago, i don't think he would have done any worse than some of the players England have picked over the years.
one of your best posts.Originally Posted by zinzan12
all sarcasm aside, good on you for admitting that you got this one wrong.
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Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!!
Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!
thered be a strong argument as to why he isnt in the top 5 at the moment. i can see the case for 3 bowlers being better than him-mcgrath, warne and murali.Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
theres no point in ripping through sides if you cant do it fairly regularly.Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
cant see how harmison is as good as flintoff, relies too much on the wicket. jones is a completely different story, because assuming he doesnt get injured, i'd be extremely surprised if he isnt in the top 2-3 bowlers in the world in a few years. swinging the new ball and the old balls both ways at 90 mph is something very very rare indeed.Originally Posted by tassietiger
Hope Freddy gets down to the no pants dance a bit more soon with his lovely wife. Only has the one daughter and i dont't want his prized genes going to the waste. Either that or clone the hero.
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Why not? It wins matches.Originally Posted by tooextracool
The point is that taking 3/60 from 15 overs or whatever is a good effort but it's not going to turn a game on its head.
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It isn't ALWAYS going to have turned a game on its head, but it could well have.Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
Yeah well, it could concievably, but really I think almost all of the time a team can recover from losing three wickets. I'm not exactly sure why he doesn't do it mind you, because Flintoff certainly bowls well enough to take bags of wickets, but the fact that he's been among the best bowlers in this series and yet doesn't have a 5 wicket haul while Jones has two, Warne and McGrath both have one and so on is telling.Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
and a 5/25 in one game followed by 3-4 poor games is in no way better than a 3/60 in 6 out of 8 innings or so. because if you look at it carefully, one bowler has been a liability for 3 games despite winning one game while the other has played an important hand towards winning 3 out of 4 games.Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
I'm not actually comparing him to Harmison... Harmison I think is way too inconsistent right now to be considered among the best bowlers in the world. When you compare him to guys who have actually ripped through sides in the past, it does become a questionmark.Originally Posted by tooextracool
Either way, he's a superb bowler, but I think it would certainly be an improvement if he started taking larger hauls of wickets and finishing teams off from time to time.
im not comparing him to harmison either. and yes he would be a better bowler than what he is now if he took more 5 wicket hauls, but to say that he isnt as good as someone who can rip through sides occasionally is wrong.Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
flintoff is a top player. easily the best "orthodox" all rounder to have played in my time of watching and following cricket (15 years).
I've heard people say that to be a proper all rounder one part of your game alone should be good enough to get you into the team, but for Flintoff I think it's both. To me the guy's a supreme "natural" athlete who has taken his God given abilities and turned himself into the world's best player.
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RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.
Could have been so much better than he was. Wasted his talent to certain degree.
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