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Old 22-08-2005, 05:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bradman vs the rest

How do you think Sydney Barnes would have fared agaisnt Don Bradman if they were both in their peak? Bradman is regarded as the greatest batsman and Barnes is also regarded by most as the greatest bowler.

How do you think Murali and Marshall would also have fared agaisnt The Don.
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Old 22-08-2005, 05:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Warne would get him
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Old 22-08-2005, 05:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Obviously nothing can be said for certain. I would personally would like to see Don face a 5 man bowling attack.

Warne
Murali
McGrath
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The contest would be awesome.
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Old 22-08-2005, 05:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nailing down Don would be very easy if he was made to face all time great bowlers like,


Ajit Agarkar
Mohammad Khalil
Jason (on present form)
Rana Naveed -ul-Hassan
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Old 22-08-2005, 06:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Bradman will fail big time facing these top bowlers,at time when bradman was present I dont think there were any good bowlers infact there were no great spinners either,If Bradman was made to face Murli and Shane he whould struggle big time,

Lets face it Bradman learned batting while playing Golf.
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Old 22-08-2005, 06:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bradman will fail big time facing these top bowlers,at time when bradman was present I dont think there were any good bowlers infact there were no great spinners either,If Bradman was made to face Murli and Shane he whould struggle big time,

Lets face it Bradman learned batting while playing Golf.
This got to be the joke of the century.
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Old 22-08-2005, 06:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Bradman will fail big time facing these top bowlers,at time when bradman was present I dont think there were any good bowlers infact there were no great spinners either,If Bradman was made to face Murli and Shane he whould struggle big time,

Lets face it Bradman learned batting while playing Golf.

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Old 22-08-2005, 06:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sydney Barnes is regarded as the greatest ?
I have my reservations and so do millions of other folks.

I feel if Bradman had encountered the four prong or Wasim-Waqar-Imran-Qadir or if he were non-australian and encountered McWarney, he would've struggled to average 75+
Still would've been the best batsman ever easily but it is one thing bashing alsoran amatuers and quiete another when it comes to alltime legends.... it is expected, whether you are man, god or the devil, you will perform better against lower competitions and worse against topnotch competition.
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Old 22-08-2005, 06:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sydney Barnes is regarded as the greatest ?
I have my reservations and so do millions of other folks.
He did play a long time ago, but still receives my vote.
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Old 22-08-2005, 07:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I think Bradman would've struggled against Warne and Murali.
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Old 22-08-2005, 07:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Lets face it Bradman learned batting while playing Golf.
Brilliant !!
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Old 22-08-2005, 08:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Harold Larwood
Maurice Tate
Hedley Verity
Alec Bedser
Jim Laker etc etc etc
Do you know how good they were?I dont think so do.do you know how much they turn the bowl?

Bradman would have struggled big time if he would have faced bowlers such as.

Wasim Akram
Shane warne
Murli
Waqar
Mcgrath

Bradman only played againts Australia and facing the same bowling line up over and over again,He was more use to the conditions and the pitch.
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Well yes, on those lists, we do know how they bowl because there is footage of pretty much all of them, not to mention reports from the time etc. As far as "how much they turn the bowl"... well if you're talking about spin bowling and not about pottery, Jim Laker is the guy you may recall took 19 wickets in a test match against Australia, and there is footage of all those wickets floating around, where you can see just how much he turned it. Verity I've never seen, but given that he was a brilliant record and bowled on uncovered wickets, as well as getting Bradman out more than anyone else, I am quite sure he could turn it. Bedser was a McGrath-type seamer who relied on accuracy more than anything else, and Bradman rated him the best he had ever faced, and included him in his all-time XI. Whether they were quite as good as Murali, Warne, McGrath etc is anyone's guess, but they were certainly more than capable, and Bradman had things acting against him that players today do not have, such as less training facilities, less coaching, less actual high standard cricket played and uncovered wickets.
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Whether they were quite as good as Murali, Warne, McGrath etc is anyone's guess, but they were certainly more than capable, and Bradman had things acting against him that players today do not have, such as less training facilities, less coaching, less actual high standard cricket played and uncovered wickets.
Having seen a few (rare) footages of that era, the skill level was nowhere as good as it was in the 60s,70s,80s and 90s.
And what Bradman had against him in terms of training facilities,coaching etc. applies to the bowlers of his era as well, so there is no real disadvantage Bradman had over the modern greats.

And taking wickets doesnt mean you turn the ball like a top....Kumble is deadly in India and he doesnt turn it like a top. Grimmett hardly moved the ball much at all, instead, he relied on accuracy,variations and subtlety. Same with McGrath.
Back in Laker's days, england produced spinning wickets like the subcontinent does today....
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I wish bradman faced some few bowlers in this era,
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