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Bradman vs the rest
How do you think Sydney Barnes would have fared agaisnt Don Bradman if they were both in their peak? Bradman is regarded as the greatest batsman and Barnes is also regarded by most as the greatest bowler.
How do you think Murali and Marshall would also have fared agaisnt The Don. |
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Bradman will fail big time facing these top bowlers,at time when bradman was present I dont think there were any good bowlers infact there were no great spinners either,If Bradman was made to face Murli and Shane he whould struggle big time,
Lets face it Bradman learned batting while playing Golf.
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Harold Larwood Maurice Tate Hedley Verity Alec Bedser Jim Laker etc etc etc
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Sydney Barnes is regarded as the greatest ?
I have my reservations and so do millions of other folks. I feel if Bradman had encountered the four prong or Wasim-Waqar-Imran-Qadir or if he were non-australian and encountered McWarney, he would've struggled to average 75+ Still would've been the best batsman ever easily but it is one thing bashing alsoran amatuers and quiete another when it comes to alltime legends.... it is expected, whether you are man, god or the devil, you will perform better against lower competitions and worse against topnotch competition. |
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I think Bradman would've struggled against Warne and Murali.
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Bradman would have struggled big time if he would have faced bowlers such as. Wasim Akram Shane warne Murli Waqar Mcgrath Bradman only played againts Australia and facing the same bowling line up over and over again,He was more use to the conditions and the pitch. |
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Well yes, on those lists, we do know how they bowl because there is footage of pretty much all of them, not to mention reports from the time etc. As far as "how much they turn the bowl"... well if you're talking about spin bowling and not about pottery, Jim Laker is the guy you may recall took 19 wickets in a test match against Australia, and there is footage of all those wickets floating around, where you can see just how much he turned it. Verity I've never seen, but given that he was a brilliant record and bowled on uncovered wickets, as well as getting Bradman out more than anyone else, I am quite sure he could turn it. Bedser was a McGrath-type seamer who relied on accuracy more than anything else, and Bradman rated him the best he had ever faced, and included him in his all-time XI. Whether they were quite as good as Murali, Warne, McGrath etc is anyone's guess, but they were certainly more than capable, and Bradman had things acting against him that players today do not have, such as less training facilities, less coaching, less actual high standard cricket played and uncovered wickets.
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And what Bradman had against him in terms of training facilities,coaching etc. applies to the bowlers of his era as well, so there is no real disadvantage Bradman had over the modern greats. And taking wickets doesnt mean you turn the ball like a top....Kumble is deadly in India and he doesnt turn it like a top. Grimmett hardly moved the ball much at all, instead, he relied on accuracy,variations and subtlety. Same with McGrath. Back in Laker's days, england produced spinning wickets like the subcontinent does today.... |
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