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Side of the last decade?

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
King_Ponting said:
Dont know how you could possibly put langer as opener in that team. In the past decade Hayden has clearly out performed him. Ponting also should be in the 1st 11..
hayden might have got a slightly better record, but langer is a much better alround player if you ask me, langer is genuine world class opener, i dont think you can say that for hayden, if you ask me he is vastly overated.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It may have something too do with watching him in this series but i watch hayden and i really dont think that he is a great of the generation compared too some of the middle order batsmen neither does langer really but he does seem a more complete player
 

C_C

International Captain
First XI:

Justin Langer
Virender Sehwag
Rahul Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Steve Waugh
Adam Gillchrist
Wasim Akram
Curtley Ambrose
Muttiah Muralitharan
Glenn McGrath


Second XI:

Sanath Jayasurya
Matty Hayden
Ricky Ponting
Jacques Kallis
Andy Flower
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Shaun Pollock
Ian Healey (wkt)
Shane Warne
Waqar Younis
Alan Donald
 

archie mac

International Coach
With some time to kill, so here is my side.


1 Slater
2 M Waugh (just so I could watch him bat again)
3 Ponting
4 Lara
5 Tendulkar
6 S Waugh
7 Gilly
8 Akram
9 Warne
10 Ambrose
11 McGrath
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
First XI:

Justin Langer
Gary Kirsten
Rahul Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Steve Waugh
Adam Gillchrist
Wasim Akram
Shane Warne
Curtley Ambrose
Glenn McGrath


Second XI:

Sanath Jayasuriya
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting
Jacques Kallis
Andy Flower
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Shaun Pollock
Ian Healey (wkt)
Waqar Younis
Muttiah Muralitharan
Alan Donald

big case for putting both Warne & Murali in the same side but Wasim/Waqar/McGrath just had to make the cut so Murali is relegated to the 2nd XI. Also why have Sehwag over Kirsten no i disagree with that........
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Beleg said:
I'd put Wasim, Waqar and Ambrose in the 1985-1995 team, which I'd think would look something like this:

1. Mark Taylor
2. Graham Gooch
3. Javed Miandad
4. Richie Richardson
5. Alan Border
6. Imran Khan [for the lack of anyother all-rounder in the world apart from Kapil Dev and a severely depleted Botham]
7. Alec Stewart
8. Hadlee
9. Wasim Akram
10. Curtley Ambrose
11. Waqar Younis

The most destructive bowler of that era was Waqar followed closely by Ambrose.
where is Sir Viv :-O
 

C_C

International Captain
Also why have Sehwag over Kirsten no i disagree with that........
Because Sehwag has done a lot better in his short career than Kirstien ever has.
And given that Murali is a superior spinner to Warney, Warney misses the cut.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
C_C said:
And given that Murali is a superior spinner to Warney, Warney misses the cut.
I'm sure that those who wanted to get into that debate (again) would have picked that up from your teams, let alone you pointing it out like that. :dry:

For mine I thought I'd be a bit different and go with a 5-5 split, seeing that you'd back your batting in that side (plus Pollock) to make enough runs to defend, and if you were playing against another Team of the Decade, then you'd want the extra bowler in there for support.

1st XI
Dravid
Langer
Tendulkar
Lara
Waugh*
Gilchrist+
Pollock
Warne
Murali
Ambrose
McGrath

Found it very hard to separate Curtly and Wasim. I think Pollock mid-to-late 90s was a wonderful bowler, not quite as good now, but his record over such a long time deserves recognition, and his batting can come in very handy.

Warney had better keep on batting well, because we're slightly shallow - but I don't think that you can keep out one of the two bowlers who, IMO, have been the two best players over the period described.

I know that we're a little low on opening batsmen, but to facilitate the extra bowler, I wasn't prepared to sacrifice the best batsmen. They're still best equipped to face off the best bowlers than the specialist opening batsmen who were vying for the position, IMO.

2nd XI
Slater
Kirsten
Ponting
Kallis
Ul-Haq
Fleming*
Flower+
Akram
Kumble
Donald
Walsh

Scott Muller stiff to miss out...

In all seriousness, I guess that Fleming is a bit controversial, but as an all-round cricketer (in other words including his captaincy and catching), his contribution throughout the decade has been excellent. Waqar stiff to miss, but as someone pointed out, he was probably at his most devastating pre-1995. Slater's achievements in a time of the better bowlers and tougher wickets outweighs his predecessors in the opening spot for Australia, and Kirsten was a much underrated cricketer IMO.

There's no exact science here, but I just tried to be a little different.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I did think of having Fleming in my second side beacause of his skills as a captain but i went for mark Taylor because he is a superior batsmen aswell as probably being the best captain of the last decade
 
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vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Pothas said:
I did think of having Fleming in my side beacause of his skills as a captain but i went for mark Taylor because he is a superior batsmen aswell as probably being the best captain of the last decade
I think also playing a lot of cricket on what are traditionally not "Batsmen friendly" wickets in NZ - much like England - does distort averages and the such too. While it doesn't wholly account for it, it does explain somewhat the horrible conversion rate of Fleming, on these type of pitches where there is usually something for the bowler, you're never really "in" and a good cod can get you out at any time.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
vic_orthdox said:
on these type of pitches where there is usually something for the bowler, you're never really "in" and a good cod can get you out at any time.
Have you been invaded by Vimes?!

I'm yet to see any good cods playing Test Cricket!
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
C_C said:
Because Sehwag has done a lot better in his short career than Kirstien ever has.
And given that Murali is a superior spinner to Warney, Warney misses the cut.
1. That may be so but Kirsten would have faced better bowling attacks than Sehwag, Viro on the other hand has made a lot of runs on flat trakcs or againts mediocre attacks except for his 155 in Chennai, i rate Kirsten ahead of him any day.

2. Please not that argument, i dont think Murali is superior anyway........
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
C_C said:
Because Sehwag has done a lot better in his short career than Kirstien ever has.
And given that Murali is a superior spinner to Warney, Warney misses the cut.
not to mention the fact that sehwag is a far more talented player.
 

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