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Why are there no allrounders who bowl spin?

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
strange eh, only true great test all-rounders like that were Benaud & the Sobers but i really cant explain it. But Vettori seems as if he could fit into that group while i reckon Cameron white could become one someday :ph34r:
 

Neil Pickup

Cricket Web Moderator
aussie said:
strange eh, only true great test all-rounders like that were Benaud & the Sobers but i really cant explain it. But Vettori seems as if he could fit into that group while i reckon Cameron white could become one someday :ph34r:
Not at all to do with his Australian-ness, of course...
 

Blaze

Banned
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Chris Gayle in ODI cricket among the current crop. Some would say Daniel Vettori, but would he be picked as a specialist batsman? Honestly..

Would Chris Gayle seriously make the WI side for bowling alone?

I think Dan Vettori is almost there. He has made two test centries and a few 50's. His average must be getting up to about 20? In the last few years at test level it has been in the 30-40 range.

I would say by the time he retires he will be challenging Chris Cairns and Richard Hadlee for our best all rounder ever.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Blaze said:
Would Chris Gayle seriously make the WI side for bowling alone?

I think Dan Vettori is almost there. He has made two test centries and a few 50's. His average must be getting up to about 20? In the last few years at test level it has been in the 30-40 range.

Gayle in ODI would walk the WI line up as a bowler IMO.

Interesting you doubt him, but think Vettori would get in the NZ side as a pure bowler.
 

Blaze

Banned
marc71178 said:
Gayle in ODI would walk the WI line up as a bowler IMO.

Interesting you doubt him, but think Vettori would get in the NZ side as a pure bowler.

Of course Vettori would get into the NZ side as a pure bowler :huh:

I haven't seen much of Gayle and so was asking Liam if he actually thought Gayle was good enough to play for WI as a bowler alone.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
I meant batsman, but I guess the bowler is an interesting one.

Say his batting meant Martin went in at 10, would he be picked?
 

Blaze

Banned
marc71178 said:
I meant batsman, but I guess the bowler is an interesting one.

Say his batting meant Martin went in at 10, would he be picked?

No question. He is developing into an outstanding cricketer and his bowling is going from strength to strength. Plus there are no other spinning options in NZ.

As a batsman give it a seaon or two and he will be regarded as a genuine all rounder i'm picking. You must admit, his batting stats in the last couple of years look mightly impressive for a bowler who can bat a bit.
 

Don

State Vice-Captain
just for steds sake will someoone please say dave mohammed.cuz he can bat a bit
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Thilan Samaraweera. Originally picked in the test team as a specialist spinner and later developed as a specialist batsman so he has been picked as both. The same goes for Alok Kapali.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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James90 said:
Thilan Samaraweera. Originally picked in the test team as a specialist spinner and later developed as a specialist batsman so he has been picked as both. The same goes for Alok Kapali.
Samaraweera debuted against the West Indies I believe and was picked as an allrounder. He would not make the Sri Lankan team on bowling alone.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Blaze said:
Would Chris Gayle seriously make the WI side for bowling alone?

I think Dan Vettori is almost there. He has made two test centries and a few 50's. His average must be getting up to about 20? In the last few years at test level it has been in the 30-40 range.

I would say by the time he retires he will be challenging Chris Cairns and Richard Hadlee for our best all rounder ever.
Gayle has been a fine Test bowler for us this year and has been doing well in ODIs for a long time now.

Vettori averages 24podd and 42.47 over his last 20 Tests.
 

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