"20 Caps and Under" XI

[shaka]

by pecking order i meant being chosen in the team, at the end of the Ashes series, Katich would be on 21 tests if he plays tests 4 and 5.

 

[honestbharani]

Can't see the justification for putting Bell in there above Katich myself. Limiting myself only to those who have actually played test cricket...

AB De Villiers
Andrew Strauss
Simon Katich
Hamish Marshall
Michael Clarke
Kevin Pietersen
Brendon McCullum
Irfan Pathan
Shane Bond
Simon Jones
Lasith Malinga

Malinga makes it due to a lack of other options really. Tait hasn't played a test, and there's no really promising spinners with under 20 tests.

I guess no young spinner holds much promise, seeing there is none in your side.

 

[steds]

James Anderson would have been a lock for this a couple of years ago.

How the mighty have fallen.

He'll be back. He just needs to mature a bit.

 

[Jamee999]

Martin van Jaarsveld.
Andrew Hall.

 

[Isolator]

James Marshall for Katich!? what the heck are you on?

Yeah, and Butler?!

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I guess no young spinner holds much promise, seeing there is none in your side.

I'm sure there are some that do, but not any I can think of who have played tests, but not 20 of them. Murali Kartik isn't bad, but hasn't done enough to warrant inclusion in this side imo, same with Herath from Sri Lanka. Kaneria has played 23 tests or something, Cullen from Australia has never played a test, nobody really stands out from England, South Africa, New Zealand, West Indies or Zimbabwe. Enamul Haque Jnr seems decent, but the same thing applies as with Kartik and Herath.

 

[superkingdave]

cough Afridi cough

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

cough Afridi cough

You'd play Afridi as a specialist spinner in a test side?

 

[superkingdave]

You'd play Afridi as a specialist spinner in a test side?

i'd certainly have him in the side above Pathan or Malinga

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

i'd certainly have him in the side above Pathan or Malinga

Well maybe, but that leaves the bowling a bit weak. I suppose he could be there instead of Clarke, but he doesn't really warrant it with his batting imo.

 

[Jamee999]

He could be in ahead of Watson/Colly.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Just to make things clear guys, uncapped players are eligible - I didn't make it very clear, but I did put "players who are just starting or about to start their Test careers" in the bit before I named my team. That's why I put Tait in there.

And the reason I didn't pick Hussey, Katich, Collingwood, van Jaarsveld, Hall etc is because I was originally going to call it a "Promising Players XI" but realised I'd have to put some restrictions on it, and decided to do it on Tests played rather than age. All of these would be in contention, but over the next few years the likes of Hussey and Hall may fade away from consideration for Test teams as they age.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

In that case then...

Michael Hussey
Andrew Strauss
Simon Katich
Hamish Marshall
Michael Clarke
Kevin Pietersen
Brendon McCullum
Irfan Pathan
Shane Bond
Shaun Tait
Simon Jones

Alternatively, drop McCullum for a more reliable batsman (probably Brad Haddin, or even Matt Prior), move the keeper up to 6 and slot in Shahid Afridi at number 7... I guess at the expense of Katich, since he's probably a bit too proven and a bit too old for a "promising players" XI anyway.

 

[Benny2k1]

How about Stuart Law

 

[Barney Rubble]

I guess at the expense of Katich, since he's probably a bit too proven and a bit too old for a "promising players" XI anyway.

That's why I didn't include him in the first place. I'm discounting players who have already proven themselves.

And if you're now choosing young players Faaip, why choose Hussey? He's quality, but isn't he the wrong side of 30 already? Correct me if I'm wrong, I usually am.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Thirty is young.

You forget - this is Australia. Remember how old their Test side is...

 

[Barney Rubble]

Thirty is young.

You forget - this is Australia. Remember how old their Test side is...

Indeed - watching them field today I could have sworn I could see them visibly going grey.

 

[tooextracool]

id think this would make a good test side:

AB Devilliers
hamish marshall
michael clarke
asim kamal(cant believe that no one has him yet)
kevin pietersen
simon katich
brendon mccullum
upul chandana(for lack of a better spinner in the world)
simon jones
shane bond
darren powell


narsingh deonarine

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

That's why I didn't include him in the first place. I'm discounting players who have already proven themselves.

And if you're now choosing young players Faaip, why choose Hussey? He's quality, but isn't he the wrong side of 30 already? Correct me if I'm wrong, I usually am.

Yeah, but he doesn't have the proven element. I left Katich out because, although he's played under 20 tests, he's both an established part of a test side and not particularly young. Feel free to replace Hussey with Phil Jaques or AB De Villiers though.

 

[Tim]

You would put Matt Prior in for McCullum when Prior has not played a single test? lol.