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5 Top cricketers in each country's history. Test and ODI's.

Zinzan

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This is tough but mine are (in no order).......

AUSTRALIA....

TEST
Don Bradman
Shane Warne
Dennis Lillee
Keith Miller
Glenn Mcgrath

ODI
Micheal Bevan
Shane Warne
Glenn Mcgrath
Dean Jones
Adam Gilchrist

ENGLAND.....

TEST
Jack Hobbs
Wally Hammond
Sydney Barnes
Ian Botham
Fred Trueman

ODI
Marcus Trescothick
Andrew Flintoff
Graeme Hick
Darren Gough
Allan Lamb

NEW ZEALAND.....

TEST
Richard Hadlee
Martin Crowe
Glenn Turner
Chris Cairns
Jack Cowie

ODI
Richard Hadlee
Chris Cairns
Martin Crowe
Nathan Astle
Shane Bond (even if in a short time)

PAKISTAN.....

TEST
Imran Khan
Javed Miandad
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Inzamam-ul-haq

ODI
Imran Khan
Javed Miandad
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Saeed Anwar


INDIA.......

TEST
Sachin Tendulkar
Sunil Gavaskar
Kapil Dev
Rahul Dravid
Anil Kumble

ODI
Sachin Tendulkar
Kapil Dev
Sourav Ganguly
Virender Sehwag
Anil Kumble

SOUTH AFRICA

TEST (i'm trying to ignore the fact that some great players only had a handful of games)

Graeme Pollock
Jacques Kallis
Shaun Pollock
Allan Donald
Barry Richards

ODI
Lance Klusener
Shaun Pollock
Jacques Kallis
Allan Donald
Herschelle Gibbs

WEST INDIES.....

TEST
Gary Sobers
Brian Lara
Malcolm Marshall
Viv Richards
Curtly Ambrose

ODI
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Joel Garner
Curtly Ambrose
Desmond Haynes

SRILANKA....

TEST
Aravinda De Silva
Muttiah Muralitharan
Sanath Jayasuriya
Chaminda Vaas
Marvan Attapatu

ODI
Muttiah Muralitharan
Chaminda Vaas
Sanath Jayasuriya
Aravinda De Silva
Arjuna Ranatunga



Thats tough to select....leaving guys out like S Waugh and G Chappell for Aust or John Reid and Bert Sutcliffe for NZ or even Hutton and Sutcliffe for Eng.

Thoughts?
 

C_C

International Captain
Dont think Lillee deserves to be there.
Would pick Davidson ahead of him.
Also, dont think Barnes belongs in that group...would pick Laker ahead of him.
 

archie mac

International Coach
I will just select Tests, as I do not give a toss about ODI :) Not in order. Just off the top of my head. So, sorry if spelling is incorrect.

Australia
Bradman
O'Reilly
Lillee
Miller
GSC

England
Hobbs
Barnes
Hammond
Lohmann
FS Jackson

Windies
Headley
Richards
Sobers
Marshall
Lara

Sth Africa
Tayfield
G Pollock
Nourse jnr
Faulkner
Donald

India
Gavaskar
Tendulkar
Dravid
Mankad
Dev

Pakistan
Imran Khan
Miandad
Fazal Mahmood
Wasim Akram
Hanif Mohammond

N.Z
Hadlee
Turner
Crowe (m)
Suttcliffe
Reid (captain in the 60s)
 
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Zinzan

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archie mac said:
I will just select Tests, as I do not give a toss about ODI :) Not in order. Just off the top of my head. So, sorry if spelling is incorrect.

Australia
Bradman
O'Reilly
Lillee
Miller
GSC

England
Hobbs
Barnes
Hammond
Lohmann
FS Jackson

Windies
Headley
Richards
Sobers
Marshall
Lara

Sth Africa
Tayfield
G Pollock
Nourse jnr
Faulkner
Donald

India
Gavaskar
Tendulkar
Dravid
Mankad
Dev

Pakistan
Imran Khan
Miandad
Fazal Mahmood
Wasim Akram
Hanif Mohammond

N.Z
Hadlee
Turner
Crowe (m)
Suttcliffe
Reid (captain in the 60s)
O'reilly ahead of warne aye??
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
zinzan12 said:
This is tough but mine are (in no order).......
...
NEW ZEALAND.....

TEST
Richard Hadlee
Martin Crowe
Glenn Turner
Chris Cairns
Jack Cowie

ODI
Richard Hadlee
Chris Cairns
Martin Crowe
Nathan Astle
Shane Bond (even if in a short time)
...
Thoughts?
I certainly wouldn't have Jack Cowie in the top test best, that fifth spot is a toss up between Stephen Fleming and Bert Sutcliffe IMO. But I have to agree with the other nine selections you've made.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I'd need to think about it properly (and I'm slightly hungover....) for my full list, but for England the first name I thought of was WG. Without the good doctor who knows where cricket would be?

For Oz I'd also be tempted to include SRW. I am biased 'cos I'm a huge admirer, but I think he was a supreme competitor & a crashingly good bloke too.
 

Zinzan

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Somerset said:
I certainly wouldn't have Jack Cowie in the top test best, that fifth spot is a toss up between Stephen Fleming and Bert Sutcliffe IMO. But I have to agree with the other nine selections you've made.
Interesting. Fleming would be 7th or 8th for me. His famous poor conversion rate of 100s counts against him for me. In fact I'd still even have John wright slightly ahead of Flem in test matches given his 12 test hundreds and less tests than Flemings 8 and close to indentical batting average.

The reason I went for Cowie as he single handedly carried the NZ bowling at a time when we aere the whipping boys of cricket and still managed a test bowling average of 21. Sutcliffe and J R Reid were close.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Largely agree, although I think Greg Chappell deserves a place for Australia, maybe at the expense of Miller. Tough call.
 

archie mac

International Coach
BoyBrumby said:
I'd need to think about it properly (and I'm slightly hungover....) for my full list, but for England the first name I thought of was WG. Without the good doctor who knows where cricket would be?

For Oz I'd also be tempted to include SRW. I am biased 'cos I'm a huge admirer, but I think he was a supreme competitor & a crashingly good bloke too.
WG was the greatest Cricketer ever in my opinion, but came into Test Cricket a little late. So I left him out. :-O
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
zinzan12 said:
Interesting. Fleming would be 7th or 8th for me. His famous poor conversion rate of 100s counts against him for me. In fact I'd still even have John wright slightly ahead of Flem in test matches given his 12 test hundreds and less tests than Flemings 8 and close to indentical batting average.

The reason I went for Cowie as he single handedly carried the NZ bowling at a time when we aere the whipping boys of cricket and still managed a test bowling average of 21. Sutcliffe and J R Reid were close.
Fair point about Cowie - obviously the job was never easy with the support around but I'd prefer someone with a great record than someone who, although performed decently in his day, didn't experience so much success.
 

Beleg

International Regular
Pakistan:

Tests:

Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Miandad
Inzamam
Hanif Mohammad

ODI's:

Inzamam
Wasim
Saeed
Waqar
Miandad


England:

Tests -

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Denis Compton
3. Freddie Trueman
4. W. G. Grace
5. Wally Hammond

ODI's:

1. Allan Lamb
2. Darren Gough
3. Ian Botham
4. Robin Smith
5. Stewart

Australia:

Tests:

Don Bradman
Neil Harvey
Greg Chappell
Shane Warne
Glen McGrath

ODI's:

1. Steve Waugh
2. Shane Warne
3. Michael Bevan
4. Ricky Ponting
5. Adam Gilchrist


India:

Tests:

1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Kapil Dev
4. Bedi
5. Dravid


ODI's:

1. Tendulkar
2. Dravid
3. Azharudin
4. Ganguly
5. Kapil Dev

WI:

Test -

1. Brian Lara
2. Gary Sobers
3. Malcolm Marshall
4. Clive Lloyd
5. Viv Richards

(truly, the above was the most difficult choice of all - so many great players - Worell, Ambrose, Holding, Kanhai etc)

ODI's:

1. Lara
2. Lloyd
3. Marshall
4. Viv Richards
5. Des Haynes


NZ:

Test -

1. Crowe
2. Turner
3. Sutcliffe
4. Hadley
5. Reid

ODI's:

1. Astle
2. Cairns
3. Hadley
4. Flemming
5. Crowe

Sri-Lanka:

Tests:

1. Ranatunga
2. De Silva
3. Jayasuria
4. Muralitharan
5. Atapatu

ODI's:

1. Ranatunga
2. De Silva
3. Vaas
4. Muralitharan
5. Jayasuria

South Africa:

Tests:

1. Barry Richards
2. Allan Donald
3. Greame Pollock
4. Kallis
5. Mike Proctor

ODI's:

1. Cronje
2. Rhodes
3. Donald
4. Kirsten
5. Kallis
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Beleg said:
On what basis does he deserve to be in front of Inzamam?
The basis that he was the better batsman, and could run?

(saying that, he did once get run out for 499)
 

Beleg

International Regular
Hanif's batting abilities were as good as Inzamam's running... (when they are calling him aaloo, that is)

Hanif Mohammad was a very good batsman, but he has the advantage of playing 50 years ago whilst humankind has this annoying propensity of bloating legends totally out of propotions, which is quite evidently at play here)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
luckyeddie said:
(saying that, he did once get run out for 499)
Wasn't it the last ball of the day though and Inzy called him for a ridiculous 3rd so that Inzy would be at the end nearest the pavilion so he could get to the food first?
 

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