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    No Balls!

    i really dont understand how bowlers can bowl so many of them, Flintoff, Lee and Kaspa are 3 notable exponents of them.

    i dont understand why bowlers have to bowl with their front foot so close to a no ball at all really, why not bowl with your whole foot behind the line, 20cm cant make that much difference once you get used to it?

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    when i saw this heading i thought it was talking about the zimbabwean batting line-up
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    IThey strive for extra pace, increasing their stride length slightly. BOOM, noball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarence
    IThey strive for extra pace, increasing their stride length slightly. BOOM, noball!
    That as well as bad training habits, trying to ruffle a few team mates in practice, consistent overstepping = same habit brought into the match


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    lol

    2nd ashes test
    1st innings: Lee 3, Gillespie 3, Kaspa 8
    2nd: Harmison 2, Hoggard 4, Jones 1, Flintoff 3
    3rd: Lee 5, Gillespie 1, Kaspa 3
    4th: Harmison 1, Flintoff 13

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    Freddy's shoulder may have made a slight change to his stride length and speed which may make him overstep.
    Or something.

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    For such a quick bowler, Harmison is very good with no balls. Flintoff has no excuse though really, at least Lee sprints in at full pace in his run up, so you can excuse the odd slip up. Flintoff, and Kasprowicz too, have short, easy paced runups, they should get it right.
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    but why not extend the run up a touch in training to make sure that sort of thing hardly ever happens, why do bowlers feel the need to go so close all the time - i mean they train to land their foot on the line with just a touch of your heel behind it

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    Does a few inches at the increase really affect a bowler's performance ? Safety first i reckon, cos wickets off no balls are captain killers

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    I think it's all to do with the delivery stride. Most bowlers measure their runs ups to the point of their back foot landing (so the whole thing was much easier under the old rules). Striving for extra pace has severe consequences for some bowlers on the length of their final stride (especially those, like Flintoff, who really put their whole body into trying to extract that pace) which creates the problem. It's really not a case of just adjusting their initial marker a few centimetres, and in addition a bowler in the midst of a spell will probably acquire an instinctive feel for where their feet should be landing as they run in. If this instinct is just slightly off then things will go wrong (and it is a problem which can affect spinners just as much as pace bowlers, albeit is usually easier to rectify in that case).

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    I know it`s not the same, but I hate it when I bowl no-balls. Not much of an excuse really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    I think it's all to do with the delivery stride. Most bowlers measure their runs ups to the point of their back foot landing (so the whole thing was much easier under the old rules). Striving for extra pace has severe consequences for some bowlers on the length of their final stride (especially those, like Flintoff, who really put their whole body into trying to extract that pace) which creates the problem. It's really not a case of just adjusting their initial marker a few centimetres, and in addition a bowler in the midst of a spell will probably acquire an instinctive feel for where their feet should be landing as they run in. If this instinct is just slightly off then things will go wrong (and it is a problem which can affect spinners just as much as pace bowlers, albeit is usually easier to rectify in that case).
    But why plan it so close then??

    It would make more sence to "plan" to be a fair distance behind the crease. This would allow for a bigger margain of error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden
    I know it`s not the same, but I hate it when I bowl no-balls. Not much of an excuse really.
    i dislike wides more, cause you look like such an idiot

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    It all has to do with lengths. If you are bowling from the same spot - the popping crease (I think that's the right crease) then you can judge your lengths and lines appropriately. The thing that upsets the bowlers is that the put more effort in to some balls than others, but fail to adjust their run up, putting it one step further back. If you are bowling behind the crease than it can put you off your lines and lengths and that is why the bowlers use the line as a guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by age_master
    but why not extend the run up a touch in training to make sure that sort of thing hardly ever happens, why do bowlers feel the need to go so close all the time - i mean they train to land their foot on the line with just a touch of your heel behind it
    Because then you **** your whole rhythm up and carry that into a match and will probably get carted.

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