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    Australians get off easy??

    Simon Jones got fined for pointing Hayden towards the pavillion, but what about all of the other fines that should've been handed out.

    Anytime Shane Warne gets turned down by Aleem Dar in particular, his reactions can be unequivocally classified as dissent, not dissappointment. He reacted particularly bad to one of them in particular.

    But let's rewind a few matches back, I think it was against NZ at the GABBA. Where Warne started screaming "look at the board" to Aleem Dar, when he called a delivery of his a wide because of his negative line.

    Then you've got Ricky Ponting. He goes over and has a heated chat to the umpire, everytime a decision is turned down. He's not going over there in a friendly manner. There's usually raised voices, glaring and finger pointing. It's looking pretty similar to when a soccer (football) player is given a red card.

    This sort of behaviour is simply not good enough on a cricket field and it should be punished accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shounak
    Then you've got Ricky Ponting. He goes over and has a heated chat to the umpire, everytime a decision is turned down. He's not going over there in a friendly manner. .
    Yet of course you fail to mention Vaughn doing the exact same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Warne
    Yet of course you fail to mention Vaughn doing the exact same thing.
    Anyone with an age in double figures could easily spot the difference in body language. Ponting's accusing and finger pointing. Like they just stole a chocolate bar of him.

    One would hardly get that impression from Vaughan's behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shounak
    Simon Jones got fined for pointing Hayden towards the pavillion, but what about all of the other fines that should've been handed out.

    Anytime Shane Warne gets turned down by Aleem Dar in particular, his reactions can be unequivocally classified as dissent, not dissappointment. He reacted particularly bad to one of them in particular.

    But let's rewind a few matches back, I think it was against NZ at the GABBA. Where Warne started screaming "look at the board" to Aleem Dar, when he called a delivery of his a wide because of his negative line.

    Then you've got Ricky Ponting. He goes over and has a heated chat to the umpire, everytime a decision is turned down. He's not going over there in a friendly manner. There's usually raised voices, glaring and finger pointing. It's looking pretty similar to when a soccer (football) player is given a red card.

    This sort of behaviour is simply not good enough on a cricket field and it should be punished accordingly.
    I agree, it's not good when players behaving like footballers starts to become the norm. It shows up the umpire and is bad for the more gentlemanly image of Test cricket particularly. Australia have by no means been all bad, I think as a team they actually take defeats very gracefully when there's always an urge to come up with excuses and there has also been applauding other players, but there has to be fines meted out for the other stuff.
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    I dont know whether Warne should be fined or what but I am sure he will lose out on some decisions which had a chance of going in his favour since he is appealing with such great passion when he has absolutely no case. His credibilty is certainly suspect because of his appealing for wnything and everything with such a great "conviction" and the display of utter shock he puts up at being denied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shounak
    Anyone with an age in double figures could easily spot the difference in body language. Ponting's accusing and finger pointing. Like they just stole a chocolate bar of him.

    One would hardly get that impression from Vaughan's behaviour.
    Vaughn would end up doing that if EVERY decision had gone against his team as well, as was the case for Ponting at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine
    I agree, it's not good when players behaving like footballers starts to become the norm. It shows up the umpire and is bad for the more gentlemanly image of Test cricket particularly. Australia have by no means by all bad, I think as a team they actually take defeats very gracefully when there's always an urge to come up with excuses and there has also been applauding other players, but there has to be fines meted out for the other stuff .
    I agree. Kasper, Gillespie, Lee and even McGrath to a certain extent take everything pretty well. It's more Warne and Ponting I'm referring too.

    To any of the more ripe members here, do you know if Lillee behaved in a dissentful manner towards umpires? I know he mouthed off players all the time, but umpires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Warne
    Vaughn would end up doing that if EVERY decision had gone against his team as well, as was the case for Ponting at that point.
    That doesn't justify dissent.. Well it shouldn't anyway..

    EVERY decision? Jeez, you're a drama queen.. Get over it. It's cricket. You take the good with the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shounak
    EVERY decision? Jeez, you're a drama queen.. Get over it. It's cricket. You take the good with the bad.
    I'll agree with that if they, to use another silly cliche "even out" over the course of a series.

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    Is Shane Warne Related To Abdul"howzat"qadir!!!
    Christ,he Appeals For Everything These Days,he Dont Need To Do That When Yourve Got Hes Ability,he Is Still Public Enemy Number1 To English Cricket Fans,you Should Of Heard The Crowd At Edgbaston When He Went For 100 In The Ist Inns
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    Quote Originally Posted by villaturk
    Is Shane Warne Related To Abdul"howzat"qadir!!!
    Christ,he Appeals For Everything These Days,he Dont Need To Do That When Yourve Got Hes Ability,he Is Still Public Enemy Number1 To English Cricket Fans,you Should Of Heard The Crowd At Edgbaston When He Went For 100 In The Ist Inns
    Yeh and im sure giles would appeal for everythign he thought was out as well. By the way, try posting without the caps lock button on

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Ponting
    Yeh and im sure giles would appeal for everythign he thought was out as well.
    No "would" about it, he does.

    And everything he knows is not out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Warne
    I'll agree with that if they, to use another silly cliche "even out" over the course of a series.
    Even if everything from Warney got turned down. KPP was wrongfully given out. The strength of the English batting minus KPP, would strongly suggest that everything did in fact even out.

    But I remember when India where down here in Aus. Heaps of decisions went against India. I still haven't stopped wishing Bucknor will retire, but I certainly didn't see Ganguly or any Indian players harrassing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shounak
    Even if everything from Warney got turned down. KPP was wrongfully given out..
    After wrongfully being given not out twice in the series so far.

    Cry me a river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Warne
    No "would" about it, he does.

    And everything he knows is not out too.
    You're like an Australian fundamentalist cricket-orist. Reminds me a bit of Scallywag, the little I saw of him.

    Gilo's appeals aren't serious. Warne looks like he's yelling at someone not to shoot him. And his reactions afterwards suggest that they shot one of his close family members.

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