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worst players on the international circuit?

Chubb

Chubb

International Regular
He isn't the Botha who plays for Ireland. Ant Botha was the guy who kept Pietersen in the number 3 spinner role at Kwa-Zulu Natal.

By the way, I think Thami Tsolekile is the worst player to have a played a test in the past year. I don't want to be cruel but he was very substandard, as was Amla. ABdeV is the obvious sucessor to Boucher.

Also, not wanting to be cruel about a young Zimbabwean, but Waddy Mwayenga sucks.
 
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Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Chubb said:
He isn't the Botha who plays for Ireland. Ant Botha was the guy who kept Pietersen in the number 3 spinner role at Kwa-Zulu Natal.
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Oops.

What's happened to Pietersen's bowling nowadays then? Can he just not be bothered? I heard he'd lost confidence in it completely, can't see how that would happen seeing as he was an all-rounder until a couple of years ago.
 
Pedro Delgado

Pedro Delgado

International Debutant
Barney Rubble said:
Ashley Giles has achieved far too much in his career to have to deal with even more Aussie idiots who don't know what they're talking about (aside from the media that is) slating his performances. I admit that in the past, I haven't been his biggest fan - and on more than one occasion I have lobbied for his exclusion from the team - but it has always been on tactical grounds, and has certainly not happened since he had his best spell of Test cricket yet, last year.

This is a man who has played 46 Tests for the current 2nd best nation in the world, who has taken 127 Test wickets (that's 127 more than you, Shane Warne, as I'm sure you haven't a millionth of the talent of Warne himself in you), who recently bowled Brian Lara through the gate, and who, above all, is a man so committed, passionate and thoughtful about the game of cricket, and so appreciative of (and well-liked by) the England fans that he deserves far better than to have his every move criticised.

I, for one, hope Giles takes a stack of wickets this series - simply because, however good he may or may not be, the man deserves it. I don't care whether or not he's only in the team because he's the best spinner we've got, and not because he's actually any good; I don't care that he's never going to be as good as Warne; I don't care that most of Australia thinks he's a laughing stock.

Regardless of his ability, the man is a credit to the game and to his country, and should be able to play the game he loves without having to deal with unjust criticism from people who will never achieve as much in the game as he has. Leave the man alone.
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Good show.
 
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The Baconator

International Vice-Captain
Barney Rubble said:
Oops.

What's happened to Pietersen's bowling nowadays then? Can he just not be bothered? I heard he'd lost confidence in it completely, can't see how that would happen seeing as he was an all-rounder until a couple of years ago.
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He got pretty much hammered in 2003 and 2004 bowling fairly part time it looks like, but averaging 52 and 63.
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
The Baconator said:
He got pretty much hammered in 2003 and 2004 bowling fairly part time it looks like, but averaging 52 and 63.
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Fair enough. I heard he used to bat 8 or 9 for his state junior sides, and was played as a specialist spinner - he even was dropped to the state junior B side for a while, as he wasn't taking enough wickets. I bet he never thought then that he would score 121 runs for once out against an attack with around 1500 Test wickets between them at Lord's on his Test debut - for England!
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Thami Tsolekile before he got dropped..

Ashley Giles (as much as I like the guy, that doesnt take test wickets)
Shane Watson
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Barney Rubble said:
Oops.

What's happened to Pietersen's bowling nowadays then? Can he just not be bothered? I heard he'd lost confidence in it completely, can't see how that would happen seeing as he was an all-rounder until a couple of years ago.
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he wasn't much of a batsman when he left SA, more an offie who was getting pipped by guys like Goolam Bodi.. Which makes his rise to fame even more remarkable..
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Barney Rubble said:
Ouch. :D
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hehe, and before you say I should have been extradited, hardly ever been to Natal.. Maybe Gauteng should employ someone?

Quite interesting that when KP went back to South Africa, he got his name written all over his car! Imagine that, and the risk of him getting carjacked..
 
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Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Langeveldt said:
hehe, and before you say I should have been extradited, hardly ever been to Natal.. Maybe Gauteng should employ someone?

Quite interesting that when KP went back to South Africa, he got his name written all over his car! Imagine that, and the risk of him getting carjacked..
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If you ask me, KP was a brave man to go back to SA and endure all that he has had to go through - all the braver to come out of it with three centuries to his name in front of those crowds. The only man in England with the balls to do that, methinks - just like he was the only man in England with the balls to stand up to the Aussies the other week. :@

And I was never thinking of suggesting your extradition! :D (they play Twenty20 in SA too these days - it wouldn't be any better for you....... :p )
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
and I wouldn't carjack KP because I'd be driving possibly the most unfashionable car in the country :D

Dead right though, I don't like KP, but he is one of my most admired players on a cricket field, a guy who lets his actions and words do the talking.. which wins my admiration every time..
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Langeveldt said:
and I wouldn't carjack KP because I'd be driving possibly the most unfashionable car in the country :D

Dead right though, I don't like KP, but he is one of my most admired players on a cricket field, a guy who lets his actions and words do the talking.. which wins my admiration every time..
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Was that a typo? Did you mean to say actions and not words? 'Cos there's not much that can do the talking other than actions and words, if you catch my drift. :D

I agree with you though - the best way he could possibly have responded to the jeers he got was to do what he did, smash a hundred, instead of saying something stupid in the media.

I think your attitude to KP is the exact way I used to feel about Steve Waugh - didn't like the guy 'cos he always seemed a bit arrogant (maybe it's just 'cos he was an Aussie cricketer :p ), and 'cos he always used to score runs against England, but I had a massive amount of respect for him. A true great - and KP is well on his way there so far.

As for KP's car, it would make sure you got some attention in this country, anyway - if you drove around England in a car with "Property of Kevin P. Pietersen" on it, you'd have to run over 50 kids to get to out of your drive each morning! :D
 
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Shane Warne

Banned
Chubb said:
He isn't the Botha who plays for Ireland. Ant Botha was the guy who kept Pietersen in the number 3 spinner role at Kwa-Zulu Natal.

By the way, I think Thami Tsolekile is the worst player to have a played a test in the past year. I don't want to be cruel but he was very substandard, as was Amla. ABdeV is the obvious sucessor to Boucher.

Also, not wanting to be cruel about a young Zimbabwean, but Waddy Mwayenga sucks.
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Good picks.

I forgot about Amla, he is indeed truely awful.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Top_Cat said:
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/ashes2005/story/0,15993,1540075,00.html

Giles is mad. Mad at Houghton and Athers too.

:jerry:
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Ashley, Ashley Ashley...... :shocking: :no:

I could scarcely believe that article when I read it at lunchtime. I wonder if the original draft was written in his blood?! I can just imagine him rocking slowly back & forth muttering "Hate world, revenge soon" over & over & over. 8-)

I dread to think what the brains trust in the Oz slip cordon are gonna make of it when he finally comes in to bat.
 
PY

PY

International Coach
His language is atrocious in that for a mainstream article. :D

He must have been chewing his kneecaps and had some Slipknot on.
 
PY

PY

International Coach
Got to ask what the hell some of those people were writing about at the bottom?

Talk about filling your column inches with crap, guess it worked though because he reacted. Goon.
 
PY

PY

International Coach
Looks like a photo they'd stick on the biography/auto-bio of a East End gangster...if of course he wasn't wearing a England ODI shirt. ;)
 
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