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Giles is mad. Mad at Houghton and Athers too.
Shane Warne
Banned
Giles is pretty gay to do that.Top_Cat said:http://sport.guardian.co.uk/ashes2005/story/0,15993,1540075,00.html
Giles is mad. Mad at Houghton and Athers too.
He should expect it after a match in which he pretty much faced two balls and scored 0 runs in two innings and bowled about 0/50 in ten overs or whatever it was.
To write it was as if England had 10 men in the game is pretty much correct, as I don't recall any outstanding acts in the field either.
He should just take it in the chin and get on with it. When he was decent against the Windies etc it was noted and acknowledged.
The same would apply to anybody else. Heaven forbid if Warne had those match statistics. It would have been 10 times as harsh.
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
Ashley Giles: 11 runs, nought for 56 in eleven overs, one catch, one run-out
Jason Gillespie: 14 runs, nought for 48 in fourteen overs, three no-balls, one catch
Nuff said.
Jason Gillespie: 14 runs, nought for 48 in fourteen overs, three no-balls, one catch
Nuff said.
Shane Warne
Banned
How about including the statistics of Gillespies partnerships and balls faced, numbnuts.Samuel_Vimes said:
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
Since you already know it, why don't you go and find it yourself?Shane Warne said:
Shane Warne
Banned
What were you trying to say by comparing him to Gillespie?Samuel_Vimes said:
It's well documented that Dizzy has been so ineffectual that there's speculation he might be done, certainly his place is in massive jeapody.
Going down that road is hardly an endorement for Giles.
Nuff said.
Shane Warne
Banned
You sad little fraction of a man.Steulen said:
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luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
(Best behaviour mode)Shane Warne said:
Stop it - you are becoming even more ridiculous than usual. Has it become a game recently to determine just how far you can go before you get banned?
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Ashley Giles has achieved far too much in his career to have to deal with even more Aussie idiots who don't know what they're talking about (aside from the media that is) slating his performances. I admit that in the past, I haven't been his biggest fan - and on more than one occasion I have lobbied for his exclusion from the team - but it has always been on tactical grounds, and has certainly not happened since he had his best spell of Test cricket yet, last year.
This is a man who has played 46 Tests for the current 2nd best nation in the world, who has taken 127 Test wickets (that's 127 more than you, Shane Warne, as I'm sure you haven't a millionth of the talent of Warne himself in you), who recently bowled Brian Lara through the gate, and who, above all, is a man so committed, passionate and thoughtful about the game of cricket, and so appreciative of (and well-liked by) the England fans that he deserves far better than to have his every move criticised.
I, for one, hope Giles takes a stack of wickets this series - simply because, however good he may or may not be, the man deserves it. I don't care whether or not he's only in the team because he's the best spinner we've got, and not because he's actually any good; I don't care that he's never going to be as good as Warne; I don't care that most of Australia thinks he's a laughing stock.
Regardless of his ability, the man is a credit to the game and to his country, and should be able to play the game he loves without having to deal with unjust criticism from people who will never achieve as much in the game as he has. Leave the man alone.
This is a man who has played 46 Tests for the current 2nd best nation in the world, who has taken 127 Test wickets (that's 127 more than you, Shane Warne, as I'm sure you haven't a millionth of the talent of Warne himself in you), who recently bowled Brian Lara through the gate, and who, above all, is a man so committed, passionate and thoughtful about the game of cricket, and so appreciative of (and well-liked by) the England fans that he deserves far better than to have his every move criticised.
I, for one, hope Giles takes a stack of wickets this series - simply because, however good he may or may not be, the man deserves it. I don't care whether or not he's only in the team because he's the best spinner we've got, and not because he's actually any good; I don't care that he's never going to be as good as Warne; I don't care that most of Australia thinks he's a laughing stock.
Regardless of his ability, the man is a credit to the game and to his country, and should be able to play the game he loves without having to deal with unjust criticism from people who will never achieve as much in the game as he has. Leave the man alone.
Chubb
International Regular
I respect David Houghton but I suspect he wants England to pick Ant Botha, the Derby spinner who bats a bit as well, but he's no better than Giles really. It's natural for a county coach to push his own players but in this case he's wrong.Top_Cat said:http://sport.guardian.co.uk/ashes2005/story/0,15993,1540075,00.html
Giles is mad. Mad at Houghton and Athers too.
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Picking Botha is the last thing we need in the current environment - a South-African born Irishman!?!Chubb said:
