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Who is the best batsman currently available to England?

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Langeveldt said:
Sachin Tendulkar - when he collects his passport :D
Yeah, this injury is an elaborate ploy. He's going to spend four years "rehabilitating" over here, then win us the 2009 Ashes! :D
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Steulen said:
He better start living up to that tag soon, though
Everyone's entitled to not live-up to something for a single game.
Or even 2 or 3 in a row.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
marc71178 said:
Well, seeing as you've just said that Trescothick (4823 @ 45.07) isn't a success...
Nope, because there's more to performing than the scorebook average.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
No, it's not.
There's so much more to being a good batsman it's untrue.
Your overall career record in one format isn't really that important.
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Richard said:
No, it's not.
There's so much more to being a good batsman it's untrue.
Your overall career record in one format isn't really that important.
eh!? you gone insane? It's not the be all and end all, but its by far the most important thing in a batsmans career..

Surely if it wasn't that important, nobody would care about it..
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
The fluctuations, ups and downs and all sorts of things in different conditions etc. tell far more than a single lump figure.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Langeveldt said:
eh!? you gone insane? It's not the be all and end all, but its by far the most important thing in a batsmans career..

Surely if it wasn't that important, nobody would care about it..
too many people care about it because they're being made to care about it.if the career average pops up on the screen everytime you watch someone bat youd expect that.
AFAIC consistency in all conditions and all teams is more important than anything else
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
So, Richard, you're saying that if you took two batsmen, who have played the same number of Tests, for the same team, and one averages 50, the other 40, there is a possibility that, in some circumstances, you would say that the guy who averages 40 is the better batsman?

Surely if averages don't tell you much then this is true - but this is a crazy concept which should never be true, and defeats the point of why averages were invented in the first place, so where does that leave you? :wacko:
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Barney Rubble said:
So, Richard, you're saying that if you took two batsmen, who have played the same number of Tests, for the same team, and one averages 50, the other 40, there is a possibility that, in some circumstances, you would say that the guy who averages 40 is the better batsman?

Surely if averages don't tell you much then this is true - but this is a crazy concept which should never be true, and defeats the point of why averages were invented in the first place, so where does that leave you? :wacko:
even though this isnt referred to me, i think its easily possible for someone in the same side with a lower average to be better. fact is that some players boost their record against poor bowling attacks-youhana, and others can be better in certain conditions than others-hayden, gayle etc. as i said earlier, consistency is the key.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Richard said:
The fluctuations, ups and downs and all sorts of things in different conditions etc. tell far more than a single lump figure.
that is true in my opinion, however say trescothinks average of 45 came from a period of about 50 straight matches, then i assume you would say that it would indeed show that he was good?
 

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