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Thorpe to retire.

Neil Pickup

Cricket Web Moderator
Shane Warne said:
Are they really the next best choices? An allrounder as one of the options for a specialist batting spot?

Wow. Not alot of depth there. Who's fourth in line, Chris Adams?
Collingwood bats at 3 for Durham and made 190 in the Championship this week.

Chris Adams is never playing International cricket again.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Shane Warne said:
Are they really the next best choices? An allrounder as one of the options for a specialist batting spot?

Wow. Not alot of depth there. Who's fourth in line, Chris Adams?
err paul collingwood is not an all rounder. hes a batsman who overperformed with the ball in the recent ODI series.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Shane Warne said:
I consider him pretty lucky to get as many caps as he did, as his talent was minimal and his record was pretty average.
except for the fact that he performed when it mattered most?
his record against both australia and SA is fairly good, and his overall record would probably have been better had he not taken over the captaincy
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Neil Pickup said:
Collingwood bats at 3 for Durham and made 190 in the Championship this week.

Chris Adams is never playing International cricket again.
You really know how to turn the knife, Neil.

When I was driving back from the jolly hols today (not home yet - in Brizzle using my lad's machine at the moment) I was listening to t'Radio Five, and the speculation was twofold about Thorpe.

One was 'The Pietersen Factor' (although as others have pointed out there are any number of ways of including them both) but the cruncher was the fact that his missus is podding in less than a fortnight.

Good luck to the guy - he's been a great servant.
 

Scallywag

Banned
tooextracool said:
except for the fact that he performed when it mattered most?
his record against both australia and SA is fairly good, and his overall record would probably have been better had he not taken over the captaincy
Odd statement ther TEC, what effect did the captaincy have on Hussain.
 

Scallywag

Banned
Well he was not a good batsman to start with so it seems reasonable that he would be found out sooner or later, but every batsman has good and bad patches.

So why would he have played better if he wasnt captain.
 

Jason_M

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
England have just thrown away the Ashes by omitting Thorpe.

He would have offered both balance to the batting line-up and invaluable test match experience to the likes of Strauss and Pietersen, could you imagine Thorpe and Peitersen feeding off each other. Their batting looks fragile without the cool head of Graham Thorpe.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
EnglishRose said:
One of the best comebacks I've seen in a while. Got Pickup bang between the eyes there :D
It's like the quite wonderful George Romero classic "Night of the Living Dead" on CricketWeb today - all of the zombies have come out to play at the same time.

Come on, guys - altogether now. "Braaaiiiiinnnnnnnnnssss"
 

Craig

World Traveller
I actually think Mike Atherton was probably right that Pietersen should have been given his go against Bangladesh ahead of Ian Bell and then the selectors might have been saved from this decision to drop Thorpe and Bell and Pietersen in the team.

Besides from his catching in this Test - he has looked impressive thus far (I mean he did get out to a great catch).
 
luckyeddie said:
It's like the quite wonderful George Romero classic "Night of the Living Dead" on CricketWeb today - all of the zombies have come out to play at the same time.

Come on, guys - altogether now. "Braaaiiiiinnnnnnnnnssss"
That's the one with that nude zombie woman with the saggy @ss right?
 
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tooextracool

International Coach
Scallywag said:
Well he was not a good batsman to start with so it seems reasonable that he would be found out sooner or later, but every batsman has good and bad patches.
and that explains his record against australia and SA, comfortably the 2 best bowling attacks at the time.

Scallywag said:
So why would he have played better if he wasnt captain.
probably because it was glaringly obvious that the pressures of captaincy had got to him, at least for the first 2 years or so, and as already been shown he had a miserable run at the time.
id be interested in seeing hussains record when he was captain, and when he was not too.
 
marc71178 said:
Which of those is an all-rounder then?
Wow, I assumed Collingwood was, due to the fact that he doesn't seem to be a very good batsman.

I was being kind. I didn't realise he was supposed to even be a specialist, so I guess it reflects even worse on him that he apparently is.
 

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