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    What's up with Matt Hayden?

    It hasn't just been his indifferent form over the last 12 months, but more his modes of dismissal and general demenour, that has had me thinking: - what's up with Matt Hayden? I reckon his old mate Michael Slater pretty much has it right:

    "He worries me because he's become a bit of a bully as a batsman and there's too much anger in his demeanour. He's never been a finesser of the ball, but he used to be subtler than he is now. The old Hayden would accumulate and then be explosive but he now wants to overpower bowlers. It can make him too aggressive and cause his technique to loosen up a bit."

    In short, Hayden just doesn't seem to be bothered playing himself in anymore or getting through the hard patches in an innings. He just thinks he can come in and pick up from where he left off, the last time he got a big score. He's too moody at the crease, and way too aggressive early on, instead of building an innings. The patience is gone.

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    Any possible connection to opening (and trying to compete with) Gilchrist in ODIs?

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    He'll be a changed man in the tests mate. Just mark my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaka
    He'll be a changed man in the tests mate. Just mark my words.

    i agree, i think a good clash with England is just what he needs.
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    i think he should be dropped for Hussey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty
    i think he should be dropped for Hussey
    good point. S.Jones has got Hayden sussed (the ball swinging in to his pads) but we have no answer to Hussey as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by age_master
    i agree, i think a good clash with England is just what he needs.
    Yeah, big turn around for Hayden on this tour I think. He'll be back to his brutal best in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golaxi
    good point. S.Jones has got Hayden sussed (the ball swinging in to his pads) but we have no answer to Hussey as of yet.
    my point exactly hussey is unstoppable
    no just joking, haydens from is majorly bad he needs to go back to pura cup and relearn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty
    my point exactly hussey is unstoppable
    no just joking, haydens from is majorly bad he needs to go back to pura cup and relearn
    Majorly bad? It has not been at his usual best, he's been averaging somewhere around low-mid 30s. Majorly bad is Michael Clarke who has only scored something like 128 runs in his last 8 innings. If anyone's due for a Pura Cup run it is him.

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    but hayden has been scoring badly for about 18 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty
    but hayden has been scoring badly for about 18 months
    Far from badly, yes, no centuries, but a half century every now and then and a couple of 30s and 40s. It hasn't been like he has been struggling to reach double figures, like Clarke.

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    he's old now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinu23
    he's old now.
    He's almost 34. Hussey is 30.

    He's proven quality and, although he's been poor in the context of Australian cricket, he's not been the weakest link, as Kyle pointed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    He's almost 34. Hussey is 30.

    He's proven quality and, although he's been poor in the context of Australian cricket, he's not been the weakest link, as Kyle pointed out.
    Katich also a weaker link than hayden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright
    Majorly bad? It has not been at his usual best, he's been averaging somewhere around low-mid 30s. Majorly bad is Michael Clarke who has only scored something like 128 runs in his last 8 innings. If anyone's due for a Pura Cup run it is him.
    And his bad run has gone on for how long? Three series you say? And the series before that he was among Australia's best? And he's the number one run scorer in the world in ODIs this year? Oh my!

    Seriously though, I like Hayden, but I'm genuinely concerned about his form. He's not made a score of significance in tests for over a year now, and his "poor run" has encompassed four series and 12 tests. On top of that, he had a brief lean patch before the match where he score two centuries in Cairns, and has also looked out of sorts in ODIs for some time. Australia's selectors are often ruthless with those on the wrong side of 30, as seen with Lehmann who had a great tour of Sri Lanka and then two poor series and was dropped before the end of the third, and Bevan who only had one bad series before he was dropped. If Hayden has a centuryless Ashes and Australia go 1 down for little on a regular basis, he may well finish his test career after the Super Series, and Hussey or Katich will open next summer.

    Provided Clarke is at least decent in the Ashes, they'll stick with him as he's viewed as a future prospect. The same cannot be said of Hayden, for obvious reasons.
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