vic_orthdox
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Aah, "The Maestro" of Victorian cricket himself. Don't impress him, you may as well move states.Swervy said:What about the legend that is Shaun Graf?
Aah, "The Maestro" of Victorian cricket himself. Don't impress him, you may as well move states.Swervy said:What about the legend that is Shaun Graf?
what ..has he something to do with coaching at Victoria these days thenvic_orthdox said:Aah, "The Maestro" of Victorian cricket himself. Don't impress him, you may as well move states.
Cricket Operations Manager, or something like that. Bowls off-spin for St. Kilda 2nd XI still (they're 1sts contain the likes of Graeme Rummans, Nick Jewell, Shaun Craig and Michael Klinger) and takes ridiculous numbers of wickets for ridiculously low number of runs.Swervy said:what ..has he something to do with coaching at Victoria these days then
Like the entire national side, then?Sir Redman said:I think this is leading to a whole heap of batsmen who can bowl a bit and bowlers who can bat a bit
still playing....wow!!!!vic_orthdox said:Cricket Operations Manager, or something like that. Bowls off-spin for St. Kilda 2nd XI still (they're 1sts contain the likes of Graeme Rummans, Nick Jewell, Shaun Craig and Michael Klinger) and takes ridiculous numbers of wickets for ridiculously low number of runs.
As I indicated before, he's a real powerbroker in Victorian cricket. Don't know if he is still on the selection panel, but he once was, and uses his position as a player to keep on the lookout for talent.
Certainly early on Steve was definitely in the allround category but the only reason Mark would not have been considered as such was because his batting was so good. In reality, he was a good enough bowler to be an pace-bowling allrounder (he regularly bowled 130+km/h and swung the ball) but as his back troubles became worse, he reverted to off-spin and at that point, he most certainly became a batsman.Steve maybe, but Mark, I wouldn't say so.
a famous incident of that was in that famous 1 run win by the windies at adelaide in 92 when the combination was McDermott/Hughes/May/Warne/Waugh's.vic_orthdox said:There were matches in the early 90s, I think, where Aus went in with two spinners and used a combination of the two Waugh brothers as a third pacer ('93 Ashes strikes a chord).
vic_orthdox said:I've seen it happen (I wish it was to me though, lol, it'd give me an excuse for my mediocrity )