Watson- ****, Hair but no Iceberg

[tooextracool]

I'd say Julian was better than Agarkar, personally. Both of them are specialist bowlers anyway.

well i think agarkar really lived in a fantasy, he never was an all rounder, he just thought he was. in reality he was more a bowler who could bat a bit.
julian though i think was picked for his all round abilities rather than just a bowler or whatever he was.
as far as their bowling is concerned, i think agarkar is a superior bowler than julian was in both forms of the game. and it must be said that taking over 200 wickets in ODIs is quite an achievement for any bowler.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Hmm, maybe. Julian on his day though was as good as anyone, although it might not have been seen at international level or in England. Over here, he was known as being occasionally magnificent and usually mediocre. When the wicket was helpful and he was in form he was as dangerous as anyone and could run through sides at will, and he massacred some pretty good bowlers with the bat in domestic cricket at times too. He wasn't a great player or anything, but I certainly think there have been plenty of worse all-rounders to play test cricket than Julian.

 

[social]

rikki clarke is a better player than what flintoff was at 24.
does that mean he'll amount to something?
plenty of players have been better than flintoff was at 24, it doesnt actually prove that much.

Absolutely correct and that's why I tempered my statements by saying "subject to future performances."

Presently, there is an argument for the exclusion of both Watson and Clarke from the Aus setup on performance.

However, they're being exposed to higher level cricket because of their potential.

Time, as always, will be the judge.

 

[aussie]

rikki clarke is a better player than what flintoff was at 24.
does that mean he'll amount to something?
plenty of players have been better than flintoff was at 24, it doesnt actually prove that much.

hell no TEC, when Freddie was 24 was around the 2000/01 season when he really started to show his immence promise, u remember his magnificent 84 againts PAK in Karachi. It was also the period where he came of age wiht his bowling with good performaces opening the bowling in the test in India & good bowling analysis in the ODI.

Clarke is no where near to Freddie at the same age.

 

[Homer]

Agarkar an all rounder . I believe Aus has few decent all rounders .. not as good as Flintoff but Symonds and Clarke are not too bad (for ODI) and for tests .. well they dont need many right now cuz they have an excellent keeper batsman ..

By the way ... hello guys .. I am new here

 

[vic_orthdox]

well they dont need many right now cuz they have an excellent keeper batsman ..

Yeah, in Test matches, but not so much in ODIs. The role of the traditional all-rounder, I feel, is much more magnified in this form than in Tests.

 

[Homer]

only NZ has got some decent all rounders

 

[vic_orthdox]

only NZ has got some decent all rounders

with apologies to Flintoff...

 

[Scallywag]

only NZ has got some decent all rounders

Should select one to play in the national team then.

 

[marc71178]

Should select one to play in the national team then.

Oooh, that's harsh!

 

[crickhowell]

i think that rather than agressive hes angry, he has to get temper under control or he'll run into trouble, he swears about the umpire every time a wide/no-ball or appeal goes against him and thats just not cricket