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Old 29-06-2005, 05:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No Asian Representation?

In the Australian team over the years we have seen a lot of players representing the immigrant communities in Australia like the Eastern Europeans and the Italians. Both Kasprowicz and Katich are of eastern European descent, M di Venuto was of Italian origin. However, given the amount of Asians living in Australia, especially in Queensland and stuff. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't noticed even one Asian player anywhere in Australian cricket. By Asians I am not referring to Indians/***** but to the Japs/Koreans etc.

What do you people think are the reasons for this? When I asked an Aussie friend of mine, he told me the Asians in his school were too scared of the ball to actually play cricket! What do you reckon guys?
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Old 29-06-2005, 05:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The same could be asked about NZ
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Old 29-06-2005, 05:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah i cant think of any prominent ones, will think about it tomorrow when im more awake though
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because instead of playing sport they go to maths school and play computer games on the weekend. they have no interest in partaking in Australian sporting activities and our culture.
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Old 29-06-2005, 06:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm sure there are many more italians than japanese in australia... And just a couple of them played first class, Velletta, M. Di Venuto, P. Di Venuto and Scuderi...
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because instead of playing sport they go to maths school and play computer games on the weekend. they have no interest in partaking in Australian sporting activities and our culture.
Thats a pretty race specific remark and harsh in my opinion with all due respect. There have been guys like Jono, Masterblaster of Asian (indian) decent in Australia studying or living from birth who I am sure enjoy playing and watching sports like others.
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In the Australian team over the years we have seen a lot of players representing the immigrant communities in Australia like the Eastern Europeans and the Italians. Both Kasprowicz and Katich are of eastern European descent, M di Venuto was of Italian origin. However, given the amount of Asians living in Australia, especially in Queensland and stuff. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't noticed even one Asian player anywhere in Australian cricket. By Asians I am not referring to Indians/***** but to the Japs/Koreans etc.

What do you people think are the reasons for this? When I asked an Aussie friend of mine, he told me the Asians in his school were too scared of the ball to actually play cricket! What do you reckon guys?
Well firstly, the reason you get Europeans like Kasper is that those Europeans are fully assimilated. Most of the cases their parents were probably born in Australia. After all, European immigrants came to Australia long before the Asians started. I very strongly doubt, however, that Kasper or Kato would know very much about the origins of their last name and cultures.

Asians simply don't play cricket in Australia. Of course a few may do, but the number is very small. I've played for numerous cricket clubs but have never had an Asian in my team. The Australian culture is multucultural, so this can't be attributed to any stigma or biases, just a lack of interest.

At my school the Asians were the ones captaining the Badminton, Table Tennis and Squash teams, it's just how it is.

We'll possibly see a change in 15 - 20 years, when Asians become more assimilated into mainstream Australian culture.

Any Aussies have anything to say?
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Thats a pretty race specific remark and harsh in my opinion with all due respect. There have been guys like Jono, Masterblaster of Asian (indian) decent in Australia studying or living from birth who I am sure enjoy playing and watching sports like others.
He's right. As much as I hate to say. There was an article about it in a major newspaper about Asian parents being too afraid to let their children to play in Soccer and Football teams. Greater emphasis is placed on studies.

Just look at the proportion of Asians in the top 20 of each state's high school results, the results here in Melbourne are disproportionately Asian. That is, 5 in 20 (or whatever the exact figure may be) Australians are not of Asian descent.

This may sound like a bit of a long shot. But if you came to a major city in Australia, you would observe the same thing.
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Its about upbringing more importantly..Im a quater chink and at school theres around 2 asians playing cricket, im in the a's of course. Most play basketball, and same for rugby. Hardly any
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It is true that us Indians attach a greater value to education than sports. It is a part of our culture. Being a chess champ in your school is not as good as being the top ranking student in your class. That is how bad it is out here.
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Indeed, I was just thinking that. He was quite close to the Australian team for a while there, and in a less strong era with middle order batsmen may have made it.
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I'm sure there are many more italians than japanese in australia... And just a couple of them played first class, Velletta, M. Di Venuto, P. Di Venuto and Scuderi...
I wouldn't be too sure about that.. Does anyone here have the approximate figures for the immigrant population in Australia?
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The 2001 Census reveals that 23.1 per cent of the population were born overseas. Of those born overseas, 33.1 per cent were born in North-West Europe (mainly the United Kingdom and Ireland), 18.9 per cent in Southern and Eastern Europe and 12.1 per cent in South-East Asia. In terms of countries, the highest proportion of overseas born came from the United Kingdom (25.4 per cent of the overseas born), New Zealand (8.7 per cent) and Italy (5.4 percent).
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