England Players

[Richard]

Swann is a fingerspinner - he spins the ball as much as Giles.
Obviously he can't spin it as much as Warne, MacGill and Murali, no-one using their fingers ever has been able to.
Giles' turn, though, isn't "slight" on turning pitches, and as such he's a very potent weapon on them.
Swann, I believe, has the potential to be something similar.
I'd say Batty probably is a slightly better batsman than Swann, Swann's too impetuous for my liking, even more brainless than Geraint Jones. But that doesn't justify picking Batty - Swann is much the superior bowler.

 

[Matteh]

I'd rather have Swann or Giles instead of Batty easily.
Giles seems (usually although not so much this year) to tie batsmen down and take crucial wickets....not huge amounts but key wickets from time to time....but he also has a first class average of a shade over 30...which drops to 20 in tests...which is better than the Australian tail.
Graeme Swann has much better FC batting average than Batty and has only a shade higher average....
think Giles is still the most consistent English spinner/all rounder...

 

[aussie]

I dont really read up on cricket that much and i was just wondering where the following england players are--

James Anderson
Simon Jones
James Foster
Nick Knight

Anderson is playing CC for Lancashire & a has gone down the pecking order in the english side.

Jones is in the 4th seamer in the english side.

playing CC for essex

playing CC for the bears...

 

[aussie]

I thought Peter Such wasn't a bad bowler. Bowled well against the Aussies and took both of his Test 5-fers against them. I remember the 6-fer he took; he bowled really, really well that day.

yea i remember him during that match in 98, i have always heard ppl speak well of him...

 

[tooextracool]

the only reason i remember such for was for this inning with the bat:
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=1472

probably the best performance by a player to score 0 i have ever seen.

 

[Shane Warne]

Bring back Tufnell!

 

[sledger]

mmmm yes, poor old tuffers is now rotting away as captain on they think its all over.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Yes, poor old millionaire Tuffers' eh.

 

[Richard]

I'd rather have Swann or Giles instead of Batty easily.
Giles seems (usually although not so much this year) to tie batsmen down and take crucial wickets....not huge amounts but key wickets from time to time....but he also has a first class average of a shade over 30...which drops to 20 in tests...which is better than the Australian tail.
Graeme Swann has much better FC batting average than Batty and has only a shade higher average....
think Giles is still the most consistent English spinner/all rounder...

Giles sometimes ties down batsmen on non-turners (not always) and almost always gets decent figures on turners.
Batty rarely does either on any surface.

 

[Top_Cat]

yea i remember him during that match in 98, i have always heard ppl speak well of him...

Actually that was his 5-fer at the SCG. His 6-fer was against the Aussies his his first Test in 1993. He did definitely bowl well that day the SCG, though!

 

[Pratters]

I know there will be some bowlers(like Akram) and some batsmen and Ramprakash is not the worst but I would be glad if some one can conjure the list of batsmen with 2350 runs or more having a worse average than of Ramprakash (27.32)

 

[aussie]

Actually that was his 5-fer at the SCG. His 6-fer was against the Aussies his his first Test in 1993. He did definitely bowl well that day the SCG, though!

yea then drifted off the scene after that series if my memory is correct....

 

[Shane Warne]

yea then drifted off the scene after that series if my memory is correct....

His last game was the Old trafford test of 99 v NZ I think.

 

[aussie]

His last game was the Old trafford test of 99 v NZ I think.

ha what a coincidence that the only international game i've missed at old trafford since i first attended thier during the that famous 97 ashes test.......

 

[Magrat Garlick]

I know there will be some bowlers(like Akram) and some batsmen and Ramprakash is not the worst but I would be glad if some one can conjure the list of batsmen with 2350 runs or more having a worse average than of Ramprakash (27.32)

Rodney Marsh, Aus 3633 runs @ 26.52 (wickie)
Richard Hadlee, NZ 3124 runs @ 27.17 (all-rounder)
Wasim Akram, Pak 2898 runs @ 22.64 (mainly bowler)
Adam Parore, NZ 2865 runs @ 26.28 (wickie)
Alistair Campbell, Zim 2858 runs @ 27.22 (pure batsman)
Syed Kirmani, Ind 2759 runs @ 27.05 (wickie)
Shane Warne, Aus 2548 runs @ 16.33 (mainly bowler)
Ken Rutherford, NZ 2465 runs @ 27.09 (captain)
Thomas Evans, Eng 2439 runs @ 20.50 (never bowled)

If you only want specialist batsmen, that's Campbell, Rutherford and Evans.

 

[Dasa]

Thomas Evans, Eng 2439 runs @ 20.50 (never bowled)

If you only want specialist batsmen, that's Campbell, Rutherford and Evans.

That would actually be Godfrey Evans (Thomas Godfrey Evans) who was one of the best wicketkeepers of all time.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

That would actually be Godfrey Evans (Thomas Godfrey Evans) who was one of the best wicketkeepers of all time.

*oops* Teaches me not to look at the stumping column...

 

[Richard]

Evans was widely regarded as the inferior wicketkeeper to Keith Andrew.
Believe it or not Evans' batting was what won him so many caps.

 

[Richard]

yea then drifted off the scene after that series if my memory is correct....

For clarification, Peter Such's Test-match career.