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Inzamam not in favor of sending bowlers to India

aliG

School Boy/Girl Captain
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I AGREE!

why send people to train with dennis lille, while you have waqar, wasim, aaqib javed to train with at home? what in the world kinda wierd decision is that.

lillee = old man, with no actual ability any more, and probably pops viagra every day to do the yahoo.

wasim waqar adn aaqib = young professionals, still ripe in their game, and are there at home! all you have to do is ASK!
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
aliG said:
lillee = old man, with no actual ability any more, and probably pops viagra every day to do the yahoo.

Yeh everything working fne upstairs mate. U dont lose ability overnight and of course he is older than wasim and waqar but he was also a better player than either of them. WTF has his ***ual life got to do with it. Start thinking before u post somethign stupid like that. No doubt ,going by your logic, wasim and waqar probably pop that viagra as well to do the"Yahoo". 8-)
 

viktor

State Vice-Captain
the initial point raised used the "yahoo" argument to support the case for not sending bowlers to india. i was just clarifying as to whether lillee commited the said act and whether ali implied that, the act was a part of his coaching.
coming to re: lillee has been coaching fast bowlers for years. he has the technical expertise required. i don't see any problem. cheers
 

Beleg

International Regular
It is my understanding that Lillee is a qualified, proven, experienced and professional coach.
Waqar, Wasim were excellent cricketers with great cricketing brains but I am yet to be convinced of their coaching abilities.

Irshad, Najaf and Asif (who is and will be crap no matter what you do with him) are far too senior for the two W's to start with them. Wasim and Waqar should involved themselves with Rashid Latif's academy in Karachi or form their own, places that cater to the under 19, 15 and 17 crowd.

Besides, I cannot see the reason behind the choice of Asif and Najaf. Najaf is around 25 IIRC correctly and has been plying the first class trade for a while now. He should have been introduced to the team two years ago.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
Beleg said:
It is my understanding that Lillee is a qualified, proven, experienced and professional coach.
Waqar, Wasim were excellent cricketers with great cricketing brains but I am yet to be convinced of their coaching abilities.

Irshad, Najaf and Asif (who is and will be crap no matter what you do with him) are far too senior for the two W's to start with them. Wasim and Waqar should involved themselves with Rashid Latif's academy in Karachi or form their own, places that cater to the under 19, 15 and 17 crowd.

Besides, I cannot see the reason behind the choice of Asif and Najaf. Najaf is around 25 IIRC correctly and has been plying the first class trade for a while now. He should have been introduced to the team two years ago.
Najaf Shah is only 20 years old.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/35/35282/35282.html
 

Duncan

U19 Debutant
The two W's were great but they haven't coached before and if they interested, they would have said something by now.
 

Beleg

International Regular
Mudasser,

Thanks. I probably confused him with another guy who played for SuiGas and took a lot of wickets a season or two ago.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
viktor said:
the initial point raised used the "yahoo" argument to support the case for not sending bowlers to india. i was just clarifying as to whether lillee commited the said act and whether ali implied that, the act was a part of his coaching.
Lol, nice way to weasel out of that!
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
aussie said:
Inzi is right, its like getting help from the enemy :blink:
Not really, there are countless examples of coaches helping bowlers from somewhere other than their home nation.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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"Help from the enemy". Is the suggestion that Lillee will give them bad advice and ruin them on purpose? His demented plan is to destroy Pakistani cricket?

Why does rivalry have to be so engrained in sport? By helping a young Pakistani bowler, Lillee (whatever race or affiliation) helps cricket on the whole to become stronger. That's what's important.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Precisely - almost all teams and (to a lesser extent) individual players tend to do best when coached by foreigners...
England's best coach, ever, beyond all question, has been Duncan Fletcher - a Zimbabwean. Indeed, Duncan is the best coach I've ever seen - including even Alex Ferguson.
South Africa, beyond all question, have been best when coached by an Englishman, Bob Woolmer. While Graeme Ford didn't really do much wrong, Eric Simons was a sad failure, and Ray Jennings could hardly have made the situation worse.
India have made unspeakable strides under John Wright, to become a team they've rarely if ever been before.
New Zealand's best period coincided with the presence of Steve Rixon, an Aussie, as coach.
Sri Lanka made leaps-and-bounds under Dav Whatmore, another Aussie.
Which is why I feel West Indies and Pakistan are stepping in the right direction appointing Bennett King and Woolmer; and why India were wise to appoint another subterrainian in succession to Wright.
And why Bracewell and, possibly, Mickey Arthur aren't likely to get too far.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Richard said:
Precisely - almost all teams and (to a lesser extent) individual players tend to do best when coached by foreigners...
England's best coach, ever, beyond all question, has been Duncan Fletcher - a Zimbabwean. Indeed, Duncan is the best coach I've ever seen - including even Alex Ferguson.
South Africa, beyond all question, have been best when coached by an Englishman, Bob Woolmer. While Graeme Ford didn't really do much wrong, Eric Simons was a sad failure, and Ray Jennings could hardly have made the situation worse.
India have made unspeakable strides under John Wright, to become a team they've rarely if ever been before.
New Zealand's best period coincided with the presence of Steve Rixon, an Aussie, as coach.
Sri Lanka made leaps-and-bounds under Dav Whatmore, another Aussie.
Which is why I feel West Indies and Pakistan are stepping in the right direction appointing Bennett King and Woolmer; and why India were wise to appoint another subterrainian in succession to Wright.
And why Bracewell and, possibly, Mickey Arthur aren't likely to get too far.

Greg Chappell lives in a hole under the ground ? :p
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Couldn't think of the correct term for the Australia-New Zealand axis, other than "Australiasian" which covers more.
 

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