England v. Australia Twenty20 Predictions

simmy · 12-06-2005, 02:59 PM

I have read a lot of predictions regarding the Ashes themselves but what about the one-off 20/20 match?

Personally I am predicting a poor England batting performance but another Gough hattrick saves us!

Scallywag · 12-06-2005, 04:34 PM

Even with a Gough hattrick England will struggle to hold the Aus batsmen.

I dont see how you could win this type of cricket if you dont bat well. England will have to bat very well to beat Aus.

luckyeddie · 12-06-2005, 04:39 PM

So much depends on Pietersen and/or Flintoff coming off big-time for England to stand much of a chance - either can be every bit as destructive as Churchy. Could be a lot of fun if they bat together for 5 or 6 overs.

Barney Rubble · 12-06-2005, 04:48 PM

Predicted England batting order:

1. Trescothick
2. Flintoff
3. Pietersen
4. Strauss
5. Collingwood
6. G Jones
7. Vaughan
8. Batty
9. Gough
10. S Jones
11. Harmison

Don't think Vaughan will bat very high - he's never played the format before, and this isn't the ideal introduction to it for him. Collingwood's ability to improvise will come in handy, as will Geraint Jones'. The top three listed there could get us off to an exciting start! I was fortunate enough to witness Trescothick's only Twenty20 innings myself, 56 off 29 balls, reaching 50 after 5.4 overs in an opening partnership of 117 in 9.2 overs with Keith Dutch - much fun.

I don't really think I need to say much about numbers 2 and 3, do I? I definitely think England will want them to bat close together - the moment KP walks out to join Freddie, it would be human nature to be a little worried, even for an Aussie. The moment they start clicking, the runs start flowing and the sixes start flying, it would be human nature to run for cover.

Australia's line-up introduces itself - the only advantages England will have are greater experience of the format in some players (notably Strauss and Pietersen), and more bowling options - taking the pace off the ball seems to help in this game. Vaughan is probably the more innovative of the two captains, too, even if his own fielding tends to let him down most of the time when he does innovate - he just needs to learn that when he invents a new fielding position to try and get a wicket, he shouldn't put himself there!

aussie · 12-06-2005, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble

Predicted England batting order:

1. Trescothick
2. Flintoff
3. Pietersen
4. Strauss
5. Collingwood
6. G Jones
7. Vaughan
8. Batty
9. Gough
10. S Jones
11. Harmison

Don't think Vaughan will bat very high - he's never played the format before, and this isn't the ideal introduction to it for him. Collingwood's ability to improvise will come in handy, as will Geraint Jones'. The top three listed there could get us off to an exciting start! I was fortunate enough to witness Trescothick's only Twenty20 innings myself, 56 off 29 balls, reaching 50 after 5.4 overs in an opening partnership of 117 in 9.2 overs with Keith Dutch - much fun.

I don't really think I need to say much about numbers 2 and 3, do I? I definitely think England will want them to bat close together - the moment KP walks out to join Freddie, it would be human nature to be a little worried, even for an Aussie. The moment they start clicking, the runs start flowing and the sixes start flying, it would be human nature to run for cover.

Australia's line-up introduces itself - the only advantages England will have are greater experience of the format in some players (notably Strauss and Pietersen), and more bowling options - taking the pace off the ball seems to help in this game. Vaughan is probably the more innovative of the two captains, too, even if his own fielding tends to let him down most of the time when he does innovate - he just needs to learn that when he invents a new fielding position to try and get a wicket, he shouldn't put himself there!

i would think Kabir Ali might get the nod over Batty

Scallywag · 12-06-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Rubble

Australia's line-up introduces itself - the only advantages England will have are greater experience of the format in some players (notably Strauss and Pietersen), and more bowling options - taking the pace off the ball seems to help in this game. Vaughan is probably the more innovative of the two captains, too, even if his own fielding tends to let him down most of the time when he does innovate - he just needs to learn that when he invents a new fielding position to try and get a wicket, he shouldn't put himself there!

They happen to be the two areas in which Australia absolutely dominate England.

marc71178 · 12-06-2005, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aussie

i would think Kabir Ali might get the nod over Batty

Even though slow bowlers are proven to be a very good option in Twenty20?

marc71178 · 12-06-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scallywag

They happen to be the two areas in which Australia absolutely dominate England.

A monkey could captain Australia and they'd still win.

Scallywag · 12-06-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

A monkey could captain Australia and they'd still win.

Still doesnt take away the fact that Ponting is a superb leader that has led Australia with distinction.

Mister Wright · 12-06-2005, 06:34 PM

Australia have shown some really impressive form already on the tour. It will be good to see how the teams mix it up in the first Twenty20. Should be an interesting game. I'll tip Australia.

dinu23 · 12-06-2005, 09:03 PM

highest score - K Pietersen
if Aus bat first total over 140
if Eng bat first total over 120
most economical bowler - B Lee

dinu23 · 12-06-2005, 09:05 PM

when is the match anyways, today or tomorrow?
and can someone from England tell me what time it is now in England?

FaaipDeOiad · 13-06-2005, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinu23

when is the match anyways, today or tomorrow?
and can someone from England tell me what time it is now in England?

Well, it's 2:30 am Australian EST, so it's 4:30 am in England. Not sure what time it would be on in Sri Lanka, but probably early in the morning like here.

edit: just checked, Sri Lanka is GMT +6, meaning it will be at 10:30 pm your time.

FaaipDeOiad · 13-06-2005, 01:08 AM

Anyway, the only hope I can see for England is, as other people have said, if Flintoff and Pietersen get going. Even then, Australia have Symonds and Gilchrist to match them for firepower, as well as players like Ponting and Clarke who I think are better suited to the 20/20 format than their English counterparts.

It will take a huge effort for England to win such a batting-oriented format.

marc71178 · 13-06-2005, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scallywag

Still doesnt take away the fact that Ponting is a superb leader that has led Australia with distinction.

Based on what?

He's not had a challenge yet at all.

But, feel free to keep on telling us how great he is and so much better than Vaughan, because I for one remember what happened last time you said that.

12-06-2005, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
simmy International Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kent, England Posts: 3,039	England v. Australia Twenty20 Predictions I have read a lot of predictions regarding the Ashes themselves but what about the one-off 20/20 match? Personally I am predicting a poor England batting performance but another Gough hattrick saves us!

12-06-2005, 04:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,617	So much depends on Pietersen and/or Flintoff coming off big-time for England to stand much of a chance - either can be every bit as destructive as Churchy. Could be a lot of fun if they bat together for 5 or 6 overs. __________________ Nigel Clough's Black and White Army, beating Forest away with 10 men

12-06-2005, 09:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
dinu23 International Debutant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Colombo,Sri Lanka Posts: 2,199	highest score - K Pietersen if Aus bat first total over 140 if Eng bat first total over 120 most economical bowler - B Lee __________________ Code: CW CRICKET - May 2009 FC M I NO Runs Avg Ct 50s 100s HS 83 157 8 4237 28.44 79 22 4 169* O W Avg SR 45 18 18.7 27 List - A M I Runs Avg Ct 50s 100s HS 179 174 5828 37.84 67 48 3 121 OD M I Runs Avg Ct 50s 100s HS SR 27 24 716 35.80 15 6 0 71* 74.58

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12-06-2005, 04:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scallywag Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,912	Even with a Gough hattrick England will struggle to hold the Aus batsmen. I dont see how you could win this type of cricket if you dont bat well. England will have to bat very well to beat Aus.

12-06-2005, 04:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Barney Rubble International Coach Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: All over the shop Posts: 10,191	Predicted England batting order: 1. Trescothick 2. Flintoff 3. Pietersen 4. Strauss 5. Collingwood 6. G Jones 7. Vaughan 8. Batty 9. Gough 10. S Jones 11. Harmison Don't think Vaughan will bat very high - he's never played the format before, and this isn't the ideal introduction to it for him. Collingwood's ability to improvise will come in handy, as will Geraint Jones'. The top three listed there could get us off to an exciting start! I was fortunate enough to witness Trescothick's only Twenty20 innings myself, 56 off 29 balls, reaching 50 after 5.4 overs in an opening partnership of 117 in 9.2 overs with Keith Dutch - much fun. I don't really think I need to say much about numbers 2 and 3, do I? I definitely think England will want them to bat close together - the moment KP walks out to join Freddie, it would be human nature to be a little worried, even for an Aussie. The moment they start clicking, the runs start flowing and the sixes start flying, it would be human nature to run for cover. Australia's line-up introduces itself - the only advantages England will have are greater experience of the format in some players (notably Strauss and Pietersen), and more bowling options - taking the pace off the ball seems to help in this game. Vaughan is probably the more innovative of the two captains, too, even if his own fielding tends to let him down most of the time when he does innovate - he just needs to learn that when he invents a new fielding position to try and get a wicket, he shouldn't put himself there!

12-06-2005, 09:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
dinu23 International Debutant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Colombo,Sri Lanka Posts: 2,199	when is the match anyways, today or tomorrow? and can someone from England tell me what time it is now in England?

13-06-2005, 01:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
FaaipDeOiad Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 18,682	Anyway, the only hope I can see for England is, as other people have said, if Flintoff and Pietersen get going. Even then, Australia have Symonds and Gilchrist to match them for firepower, as well as players like Ponting and Clarke who I think are better suited to the 20/20 format than their English counterparts. It will take a huge effort for England to win such a batting-oriented format.

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