Mister Wright
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Why not? They could get a lot of luck...Richard said:No-one will ever break the Test-record score on a pitch that offers something to the bowlers.
Why not? They could get a lot of luck...Richard said:No-one will ever break the Test-record score on a pitch that offers something to the bowlers.
You obviously don't know me well enough.Nnanden said:And Kyle was being SO serious.
:slap:Mister Wright said:You obviously don't know me well enough.
They'd need an amount never seen before - greater even than the amount England's batsmen got in the First "Test" against Bangladesh.Mister Wright said:Why not? They could get a lot of luck...
Agreed there. Hayden has some faults, but inability to play on green wickets is certainly not one of them (his record at the Gabba shows that), and he doesn't get any of the credit he deserves on this forum. Partially I think it's because last time he went to England he struggled... and most (almost all) of those who deride Hayden on this forum are English.EnglishRose said:matthew Hayden is a better player than he is given credit for on this forum. Debate.
is that good enough for you ?
he is no where close to being the greatest batsman on seaming pitches, he record on seaming pitches isn't great nor is it poor, its just averageEnglishRose said:Matthew hayden is the world's best batsman on seaming pitches.
His reflexes, poise, and strength make him ideally suited to faciing the most challenging batting conditions anywhere in the world.
Richard said:Err, I said bowlers can't be considered green-top bullies where?
I said that Harmison has a history of bowling extremely poorly on green-tops so he's not one.QUOTE]
its the total opposite richard, when their is assistance on the wicket Harmison has been menacing but when their is none the opposite happens has was shown in the Caribbean where he was menacing and in SA recently
Indeed. You know what else you can cut with a knife? Ham.KennyD said:Lol.
Tell you what Nath, I haven't been in CC for a while, but geez, sometimes you could cut the tension with a knife...
I'll join you._Ed_ said:Indeed. You know what else you can cut with a knife? Ham.
Alright, back to OT for me.
Harmison has wasted green wickets - the assistance in the pitches for the first 3 Tests in West Indies was overplayed, far more of his wickets came from poor strokes than seam or uneven bounce.aussie said:its the total opposite richard, when their is assistance on the wicket Harmison has been menacing but when their is none the opposite happens has was shown in the Caribbean where he was menacing and in SA recently
I'd be interested to see a summary of Hayden's record at The 'Gabba 1991\92-1999\2000, and how many of those wickets genuinely were seam-friendly.FaaipDeOiad said:Agreed there. Hayden has some faults, but inability to play on green wickets is certainly not one of them (his record at the Gabba shows that), and he doesn't get any of the credit he deserves on this forum. Partially I think it's because last time he went to England he struggled... and most (almost all) of those who deride Hayden on this forum are English.
Since there isn't any empircal way of calculating a "seam-friendly" as opposed to a "flat' pitch, obviously you can't work out how many Gabba wickets in the 90s were seam friendly, but quite simply the Gabba in the 90s was as seam-friendly as any other wicket in the world, and far more than any other wicket in Australia. Gabba green-tops were regular, and it is impossible that one could average close to 60 there over a decade and not play on a fair few of them.Richard said:I'd be interested to see a summary of Hayden's record at The 'Gabba 1991\92-1999\2000, and how many of those wickets genuinely were seam-friendly.
All I know for sure is he averages 57 there in all domestic cricket.
How is it not impossible?Richard said:No, it's not impossible at all.
And likewise it's not impossible, given that the standard of bowling is not Test-match standard, to get away with faults in the domestic game while having them exposed in the Test-match game.
Mister Wright said:Don't forget he would have been up against McGrath when he first started out.
McGrath's accounted forvic_orthdox said:and plenty more who I've forgotten