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    Hypothetical Question

    Brought up by T_C's comment about Australian's not tending to pick players with unorthodox actions.

    If Murali were Australian and had the same career progression in terms of effectiveness, would he be selected for their side a) when his career started, b) when results weren't going so well and c) now?

    My view is he'd not have got past stage b) because of the Warne factor, but I'd be interested to hear what others think.
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    Part a) no
    Part b) no
    Part c)no

    Chucking is closely monitored here in aus

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    a)yes
    b)no
    c)yes

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    a) Yes
    b) Yes
    c) Yes


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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Ponting
    Part a) no
    Part b) no
    Part c)no

    Chucking is closely monitored here in aus
    As shown by Lee, B .....

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    Personally I think he would have had extreme difficulty getting through the early coaching phases of Australian cricket, but assuming he did he would certainly be picked currently in the same role Macgill currently is, assuming that he had a comparable level of success in Australian domestic cricket to what he has in England.

    So I guess I would answer:
    a) No
    b) No
    c) Yes
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    if he was averaging 22 in domestic cricket yeah i reakon we would have played spinners alot more, Macgill probably wouldn't have played as much
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    No doubt if Murali was Australia and survived coaching procedures well enough to make domestic cricket, we would be hearing the same thing we hear about Macgill now... "if he played for any other country, he would have played over 50 tests".

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    Just a friendly warning that if this thread goes down the route of how 99.9% of other Murali threads have gone it shall be closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    No doubt if Murali was Australia and survived coaching procedures well enough to make domestic cricket, we would be hearing the same thing we hear about Macgill now... "if he played for any other country, he would have played over 50 tests".
    And, as we all know, if MacGill had played 50 Tests he might very well be averaging in the mid-30s.
    If Murali had survived Australian coaching I don't doubt him and Warne would have formed a partnership almost if not completely equal to Grimmett and O'Reilly.
    And as for the effect on Australia... I shudder to think, frankly.
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    I'm not sure how people can say no to b then yes to c - if he was dropped at that point, he'd not have had the games after then which are what make him such a top bowler, and would have made him a selection now.

    The other issue is with the 2 spinners, what would the Australian team look like now?

    Anyone care to have a guess?

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    It'd be even more tough luck to Kasprowicz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    I'm not sure how people can say no to b then yes to c - if he was dropped at that point, he'd not have had the games after then which are what make him such a top bowler, and would have made him a selection now.

    The other issue is with the 2 spinners, what would the Australian team look like now?

    Anyone care to have a guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Echoed. Haha, obviously Murali playing for Australia distorts the time-space continuum or whatnot.
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