Scaly piscine
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If you had two brain cells to rub together you'd realise it's a perfectly valid point given the past half dozen or so years.GermanShepherd said:
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Scaly piscine
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Pratyush said:
Typical Atherton, he's done reasonably well in one series where England were dire, at best he's been a solid ODI bowler. Just a shame he can't field or bat.
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
Which makes this selection a bit of a farce, doesn't it?!Pratyush said:
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The logic supposedly is, it gives the players to get ready for the Super Series and Australia to know and plan for the 'team' likely to face them.Samuel_Vimes said:
More logical would ofcourse be to select the 13 for the test and 14 for the 3 match ODI series just once and avoid the saga of shortlisting and the 6 selectors discussing thrice before the avoid at the final squad, which may not even include a player from the initial 30!
Total farce indeed.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Your opinion of this side?
- Sehwag- Explosive opener, takes a lot of risks.
- Chris Gayle- Another explosive hitter, but a lot more steady and clean.
- Lara- Enough said- contender for captain
- Tendulkar- Enough said
- Dravid- Enough said
- Flintoff- Clean, hard hitter of the ball;; capable of bowling a lot faster than normal
- Pollock- Tough swing/seam bowler and effective with the new ball; hard hitter, capable of scoring a rapid innings
- Mark Boucher- Very dependable wicketkeeper, quick-scoring batsman
- Kumble- In very good form in Tests, save the last series, may get a go in OD's too
- Muralitharan- Expect a bagful of wickets for not too many
- Harmison- Pace. Raw pace to complement his swing/seam partner
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Happy enough, Arjun, except for gayle opening in a test match. We'd be seeing lara in very early i'd suspect.
What'll interest me about the One Day series is what type of pitch the drop-in provides. Usually its a bit slow and low, which may mean that more of the sub-continent players will get a guernsey than they would have otherwise in a match on Australian soil.
What'll interest me about the One Day series is what type of pitch the drop-in provides. Usually its a bit slow and low, which may mean that more of the sub-continent players will get a guernsey than they would have otherwise in a match on Australian soil.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Do you really think so? When there aren't that many classy pace bowlers crying out for a spot, on a wicket in Sydney which traditionally is the most conducive to spin bowling in Australia? Against a side that historically has a relative weakness to spin in comparison to how they play pace bowling? And a third pace bowler in Flintoff is available for use, so we aren't under-resourced in this area?Pratyush said:
I would have thought that two spinners for the World XI is close to a mere formality in this match.
twctopcat
International Regular
I think Sangakkara needs to be the wicketkeeper though because he is used to Murali's bowling, which is a big factor, as he can read Murali's deliveries so well. Boucher may struggle more keeping to quality spin as he doesn't get the opportunity much!!Arjun said:
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
Plus, Sangakkara gives 50-60 more runs with the bat in a match...twctopcat said:
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
This is a test side, right? No way I would include Gayle or Boucher, or Tendulkar currently.Arjun said:
My test side if it were played tomorrow would be:
Varinder Sehwag
Andrew Strauss
Rahul Dravid
Brian Lara
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkara
Andrew Flintoff
Shaun Pollock
Anil Kumble/Daniel Vettori
Harbhajan Singh/Muttiah Muralitharan
Shoaib Akhtar
The spinners are tough to pick because of the selection criteria. Murali might not be fit, Vettori isn't as good as Kumble or Harbhajan in his own right but he has troubled Australia. I think right not Kumble and Harbhajan would be the likely pairing.
If one of Harmison or Hoggard has a big Ashes series they are obviously major contenders, even though Hoggard hasn't been picked in the 39. Tendulkar can obviously still compete for a spot, and I think regardless of form he will make it because of the way the selectors acted in picking their 39. However, if the team were to play tomorrow, he doesn't deserve to be in the side ahead of Kallis, Lara or Dravid in a million years.
Reserve bowler would be Ntini or Hoggard, reserve batsman would be Tendulkar.
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Never in hell will the selectors insult Tendulkar by making him 12th man. I agree he would not make a World XI currently, but I'm pretty sure he'll be one of the first names on the team sheet in both forms.
Test: Sehwag Tendulkar Kallis Lara Dravid Flintoff Sangakkara Pollock Kumble Muralitharan Harmison
12th & 13th men: Vaughan and Ntini
(yes, they'll make him open because there's no way they're going to leave any of Kallis, Dravid and Lara out of the middle order and as said above he will play)
ODI: Sehwag Tendulkar Kallis Lara Dravid Flintoff Sangakkara Pollock Vettori Muralitharan Ntini
12th, 13th & 14th men: Trescothick, Gayle and Vaas
Test: Sehwag Tendulkar Kallis Lara Dravid Flintoff Sangakkara Pollock Kumble Muralitharan Harmison
12th & 13th men: Vaughan and Ntini
(yes, they'll make him open because there's no way they're going to leave any of Kallis, Dravid and Lara out of the middle order and as said above he will play)
ODI: Sehwag Tendulkar Kallis Lara Dravid Flintoff Sangakkara Pollock Vettori Muralitharan Ntini
12th, 13th & 14th men: Trescothick, Gayle and Vaas
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
My test side
Sehwag
Kallis
Lara
Tendulkar
Dravid
Flintoff
Sangakarra
Pollock
Akhtar/Harmison/Hoggard
Kaneria
Muralidharan
I am tempted at making Kallis open but it sounds very suspect. Tendulkar should be there considering not only that he can bat but also the fact that he would be more than handy in Sydney. As much as I would like to include Kallis in the side, if people have problems with him opening, I guess he would have to go and make room for Strauss (depending upon how he performs in the Ashes) or Smith
Kaneria and Murali would be an awesome combination on a turner in Sydney
*Maybe this should be made into the Super Series 2005 thread and topped*
Sehwag
Kallis
Lara
Tendulkar
Dravid
Flintoff
Sangakarra
Pollock
Akhtar/Harmison/Hoggard
Kaneria
Muralidharan
I am tempted at making Kallis open but it sounds very suspect. Tendulkar should be there considering not only that he can bat but also the fact that he would be more than handy in Sydney. As much as I would like to include Kallis in the side, if people have problems with him opening, I guess he would have to go and make room for Strauss (depending upon how he performs in the Ashes) or Smith
Kaneria and Murali would be an awesome combination on a turner in Sydney
*Maybe this should be made into the Super Series 2005 thread and topped*
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Well, admittedly they selected 39 players so all bets are off really, but 25 of my 30 made it into at least one squad.
Attapattu, Cairns, De Villiers, Fleming & Oram were the unlucky men.
How come NZ have been so roundly ignored? They are arguably the 2nd best ODI team in the world.
Attapattu, Cairns, De Villiers, Fleming & Oram were the unlucky men.
How come NZ have been so roundly ignored? They are arguably the 2nd best ODI team in the world.
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
twctopcat said:
Shows that there's not a lot of legs left to stand on for poor Boucher, though.
