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    Natural talent vs hard work

    Hi everyone, this forum looks like a great place to discuss so I joined. Hi, Im from the UK, 17 years old and love cricket, I support England.

    As my first thread I'd like to hear your guys thoughts on who you think are the most 'naturally gifted' batsmen and those who you believe have worked hardest for their skills. I started thinking about this when in the Times Sports supplement this week there was a compasison between Ponting and Vaughn, I'm of the opinion that Vaughn is less naturally gifted than Ponting however that does not make him less of a batsmen on the contrary, he may just have had to work harder to get where he is.

    So what do you guys think, who are the most naturally gifted batsmen?

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    Vaughan less gifted then Ponting?? Aw man, obviously you did not watch the last ashes series. Also how do you propose to measure natural talent, in that is it distuinguishable from learnt things
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    Most all batsmen at test level have loads of natural talent but if you are looking for batsmen who are hardworkers and had to work to absolute limt of their ability to make runs, you cant find much better than Hussain and Richardson. I cant think of any other batsmen who had rather minimal talent [in comparison to other batsmen, excluding any Bang and most Zimbos batemen] but used it so effectively
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedKing
    Most all batsmen at test level have loads of natural talent but if you are looking for batsmen who are hardworkers and had to work to absolute limt of their ability to make runs, you cant find much better than Hussain and Richardson. I cant think of any other batsmen who had rather minimal talent [in comparison to other batsmen, excluding any Bang and most Zimbos batemen] but used it so effectively

    Why excluding zim and bag,they have some very hard working cricketers and talented as well,
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    because i dont really know alot about their players apart from the obvious ones like Taibu, the Flowers, i cant think of anyone else

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    Most naturally talented, probably Shahid Afridi..

    Hardest worker, Gary Kirsten..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    Most naturally talented, probably Shahid Afridi..

    Hardest worker, Gary Kirsten..
    Most talented, current between Gayle and Afridi, All time, the obvious 1 "the Don"

    Hardest worker-i said Hussain, but ATM, between Thorpe or Kallis.

    all time maybe Boycott

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    Tendulkar and Lara being the best batsmen of the generation are clearly the most talented. Mark Richardson was the obvious hard worker. Kallis and Thorpe are very hard workers but they obviously have a lot of talent aswell.

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    International cricketers who say that cricket is 99% hard work don't know what they are talking about, since they are the ones with all the natural talent. Yes, Mark Richardson had to work extremely hard to become a good batsman but he does have natural talent. He has naturally got massive powers of concentration and a good work ethic - these are natural talents.You cannot face 150 km/h bowling and not have natural talent - the reaction speed necessary to do that is far too high for someone who does not naturally have fast reactions.

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    yeah your right, but in realation to gifted talent, he is lowest in the pecking order in international cricket. the man has lots of limitations. he does play OD cricket for his county team.So when you compare him to someone who has shots like gilchrist or flintoff, then you see what they mean

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    Freddie is a very hard worker...most gifted...Afridi.
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    From what Ive heard/read Sachin Tendulkar worked very hard throughout his career.
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    I read an article on Michael Clarke and it looks as if he worked extremelly hard but he is also naturally gifted..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwek
    Freddie is a very hard worker...most gifted...Afridi.
    You think Afridi is more gifted than Lara, Tendulkar and the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Link
    yeah your right, but in realation to gifted talent, he is lowest in the pecking order in international cricket. the man has lots of limitations. he does play OD cricket for his county team.So when you compare him to someone who has shots like gilchrist or flintoff, then you see what they mean
    Yes I know players like Gilchrist are rediculously gifted. I just think that some players - Richardson for example - are extremely gifted with their ability to concentrate and work hard. Some people just do not have the natural ability to concentrate for long periods of time, whereas Richardson can do that naturally.

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