Hinds and Smith in confrontation - Page 3

Richard · 05-05-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by roseboy64

Interesting report... so I wasn't the only one who considered the possibility of racist comments...
I hasten to add that I don't think for a second Smith would indulge in such things, but I'm not surprised that their apparent presence was the cause of the trouble.

Langeveldt · 06-05-2005, 01:29 PM

And I guess Smith's non existant reputation will be tattered even more by this saga he seemed to have no real part in?

Link · 06-05-2005, 04:31 PM

maybe not, he is all ready known as a loud mouth on the field. So it is not really suprising for us to see him involved in something like this. However not so for poor Hinds. He is the one whose reputation will be effected the most

jot1 · 06-05-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Link

maybe not, he is all ready known as a loud mouth on the field. So it is not really suprising for us to see him involved in something like this. However not so for poor Hinds. He is the one whose reputation will be effected the most

Why "poor Hinds"? Why not "poor Smith"? According to the report Smith was innocent. Hinds was out of line. Yet Smith is being denigrated for something he didn't do. (As in nearly everyone here has said something to the effect that he probably did say something even though the report says he didn't!) And "poor" HInds' reputation is going to be besmirched. Well, so it should be, his behaviour was disgraceful. Not sporting at all.

roseboy64 · 06-05-2005, 09:06 PM

Well this is very unlike Hinds so Smith must have doine something really bad. Smith already has a bad reputation but Wavell's has been pretty much spotless.

Deja moo · 06-05-2005, 10:26 PM

Just to clarify, Smith wasnt declared innocent. There just wasnt evidence to back up Hinds' claims.

jot1 · 07-05-2005, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Deja moo

Just to clarify, Smith wasnt declared innocent. There just wasnt evidence to back up Hinds' claims.

"But Graeme Smith, South Africa's captain, has been cleared of any misconduct on his part, after a confrontation between the pair on the final day of the match." This is a direct quote from the article reporting about the hearing. To me that reads innocent.

Link · 07-05-2005, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jot1

Why "poor Hinds"? Why not "poor Smith"? According to the report Smith was innocent. Hinds was out of line. Yet Smith is being denigrated for something he didn't do. (As in nearly everyone here has said something to the effect that he probably did say something even though the report says he didn't!) And "poor" HInds' reputation is going to be besmirched. Well, so it should be, his behaviour was disgraceful. Not sporting at all.

what was the point in that you didnt even disagree with me. I was talking about Smiths reputation in that it will not change from being a cricketing loudmouth. I said that Hinds rep will because he is not renowned for that

jot1 · 07-05-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Link

what was the point in that you didnt even disagree with me. I was talking about Smiths reputation in that it will not change from being a cricketing loudmouth. I said that Hinds rep will because he is not renowned for that

How could I disagree with you? I know Smith is known as a loudmouth.

My point is, Hinds shouldn't get any sympathy (as in "poor Hinds"). He not only used verbal abuse but showed great disrespect by spitting on the ground in front of Smith and then deliberately tried to hit him with the ball. That's a long way from just sledging as Smith does. Hinds damaged his own reputation.

Link · 07-05-2005, 02:40 PM

agreed, but Hinds was wound up by Smith not to say what he done was out of order, it was just out of character. I put it down to being provoked

Richard · 07-05-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by roseboy64

Well this is very unlike Hinds so Smith must have doine something really bad. Smith already has a bad reputation but Wavell's has been pretty much spotless.

Why must he have done something really bad? Why couldn't Hinds have been misled into believing he'd done something really bad?

honestbharani · 07-05-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Why must he have done something really bad? Why couldn't Hinds have been misled into believing he'd done something really bad?

It could be........ Either way, there must have been some involvement from Smith.... Hinds has been around for a lot longer than Smith and has never been involved in such issues, but we all already know Smith's track record... And his statement now seems extremely absurd to me..... He wants a public apology from Dwayne Bravo.... I agree with Mike Holding here.. Why a public apology? AFAIC, Bravo didn't even go public with any allegations about Smith. He probably said something to Hinds about what Smith told him and Hinds may have taken offence to that but really, I don't see why Bravo should issue a public apology for this. If anything, this only makes me suspect Smith more. If he had wanted a private "I am sorry about the misunderstanding" from Bravo, that would have been more like it.

Right arm fast · 07-05-2005, 10:18 PM

i just read in chris cairns book about how hinds went nuts after a game and tried to hit vettroi with his bat ect.

Craig · 08-05-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Exactly - he's a love-to-hate character virtually throughout The World by now.

Well I certainly don't hate him, as a player and his attitude. I like his attitude though, at least he won't back down to anybody.

Jono · 08-05-2005, 08:16 AM

Smith replies to the allegations with a 100 in the first ODI.

Well done Graeme.

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Link State Vice-Captain Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 1,384	agreed, but Hinds was wound up by Smith not to say what he done was out of order, it was just out of character. I put it down to being provoked

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