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    Curtly for me. I feel he could do more things with the ball; bowl the really nasty one.... whereas mcgrath will get to you just by his line and length
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    Not much difference except Mcgrath generally takes the key wickets of the best batsman in the opposition.

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    There really is no way of telling them apart. Two of the greatest bowlers of modern times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    There really is no way of telling them apart. Two of the greatest bowlers of modern times.
    Ambrose

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    a better bat
    and a better human being on the field (from what i have seen on T V)

    other wise both are equal
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    ambrose.

    i rate him as one of the best ever acutally i rate him at no1.wish i could get a couple of weeks to tax his brain a bit.

    now comparing walsh and mcgrath i would go with the pidgeon by about a mile.walshy was never as impressive in my book.
    but back to amby.whu dosent love the dred and the baldhead mon
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    Quote Originally Posted by a massive zebra
    Ambrose's control was as good if not better, but he failed in the subcontinent unlike McGrath who has had success everywhere. If both on top form I would prefer Ambrose, but McGrath is for me the more consistent of the two.

    Set up a poll.
    err what?
    when did ambrose fail in the subcontinent? ambrose barely played in the sub continent(never played a game in india and in SL post 96). he did however play in pakistan and took 14 wickets at 17.07 on his tour in 90/91.
    he returned in 97/98 and played one game and struggled, but still ended up with an overall average of 25 in pakistan which is far far from a failure.
    and just for comparison mcgraths record in pakistan stands at 19 wickets @ 31(Remember the series in 02/03 was in sharjah)
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    geeeeeeez, these two are magnificent the two best of the last decade or so, both similar in most ways, deadly accurate, ecominical, wicket-taking and both hae destroyed many a batting line.

    Who do you blokes think is better, its two hard for me
    Ambrose by a mile.
    Ambrose could actually earn his wickets on flat pitches.
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    Ambrose by a mile.
    Ambrose could actually earn his wickets on flat pitches.
    Rubbish.

    I would say Ambrose by a hair's breadth overall but McGrath definately is better than ambrose on alien pitches- their performance in the subcontinent is a testament to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Ambrose by a mile.
    Ambrose could actually earn his wickets on flat pitches.
    I thought it wasn't serious until I saw "Richard" to the left.
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    help me out here.
    I am still relatively new to the board.
    Is Richard just a wind-up job or is he actually serious about his notions ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    help me out here.
    I am still relatively new to the board.
    Is Richard just a wind-up job or is he actually serious about his notions ?
    He's serious. He's spent over 10,000 posts defending them. Occasionally though he comes out with something really bizarre and then backs down later saying he was just playing the Devil's Advocate, like with his claim that the Pakistan team of 1999 was better than the Australian team of 2001/02.
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    Believe it or not convention is not the be-all-and-end-all and people with C_C's theories have some nerve to dismiss mine as such as he has.
    Incidentally, their records in the subcontinent (and elsewhere on flat pitches - such as in West Indies) do back-up what I've said - you look at the deliveries that have wickets against their names, instead of just looking at the figures, and you'll see that Ambrose bowled many wicket-taking deliveries, whereas McGrath benefited from poor strokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Believe it or not convention is not the be-all-and-end-all and people with C_C's theories have some nerve to dismiss mine as such as he has.
    Incidentally, their records in the subcontinent (and elsewhere on flat pitches - such as in West Indies) do back-up what I've said - you look at the deliveries that have wickets against their names, instead of just looking at the figures, and you'll see that Ambrose bowled many wicket-taking deliveries, whereas McGrath benefited from poor strokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Ambrose by a mile.
    Ambrose could actually earn his wickets on flat pitches.
    here you go with your nonsense again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Believe it or not convention is not the be-all-and-end-all and people with C_C's theories have some nerve to dismiss mine as such as he has.
    Incidentally, their records in the subcontinent (and elsewhere on flat pitches - such as in West Indies) do back-up what I've said - you look at the deliveries that have wickets against their names, instead of just looking at the figures, and you'll see that Ambrose bowled many wicket-taking deliveries, whereas McGrath benefited from poor strokes.
    so your saying Mcgrath didn't bowl any wicket-taking deliveries in the sub-continet or on flat pitches mainly, total nonsense, plus we have been over this arguement before those poor strokes were evoked by McGrath nagging accuracy and cunning skill to get the batsman ou, not by them just giving thier wickets away by playing poor strokes that crazy why dont go out & a limb and say all McGrath wickets are via poor strokes

    Why would you consider West Indian pitches to be flat its only of recent they have flattened out with the exception of Guyana & Trinidad, when McGrath played full series in 95 & 99 and the antigua test in 2003 pitches in Jamaica, Barbados(except 2003) & antigua could by no means be considered flat surfaces

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