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    All Time Test XI: Asia v Rest of The World

    Just thought i'll start a Asia XI vs Rest of The World XI thread up. I know there is a couple of World XI threads, but a World XI can't play anyone (well maybe they play cricket in Mars ). If u guys could pick a Asia XI and Rest of The World XI what would it be, Test players off course. These are my teams for the moment, im sure they change within a couple days, as i would have forgetten a couple players.

    Asia XI
    S Gavaskar
    V Shewag
    R Dravid
    S Tendulkar
    J Miandad
    K Sangakkara (wk)
    I Khan (c)
    K Dev
    W Akram
    W Younis
    M Muralitharan

    R. World XI
    J Hobbs
    H Sutchiffe
    D Bradman (c)
    G Pollock
    G Sobers
    V Richards
    A Gilchrist (wk)
    R Hadlee
    S Warne
    C Ambrose
    G McGarth

    So what sides would you guys have??
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    Cool thread. I'll give it a shot.

    World XI
    Jack Hobbs
    Len Hutton
    Donald Bradman (c)
    Brian Lara
    Greg Chappell
    Gary Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist (k)
    Richard Hadlee
    Shane Warne
    Michael Holding
    Glenn McGrath

    More rotation from the last World XI thread - Imran, Gavaskar (obviously), Hammond and Miller go out, Chappell comes back and Holding, Lara and Hutton come in, with Lara picked over Richards and Hammond to play the spin.

    Asia XI
    Sunil Gavaskar
    Virender Sehwag
    Rahul Dravid
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Javed Miandad
    Kumar Sangakkara (k)
    Imran Khan (c)
    Wasim Akram
    Waqar Younis
    Anil Kumble
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    Sehwag the only questionable one for me really, since he has only played for a few years. Replace with Saeed Anwar or Jayasuria at will.

    I think the World XI would probably crush the Asian XI pretty badly due to the shortish batting lineup against the might of Hadlee/Holding/McGrath and the Bradman factor. Still a game I wouldn't mind seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Cool thread. I'll give it a shot.

    World XI
    Jack Hobbs
    Len Hutton
    Donald Bradman (c)
    Brian Lara
    Greg Chappell
    Gary Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist (k)
    Richard Hadlee
    Shane Warne
    Michael Holding
    Glenn McGrath

    More rotation from the last World XI thread - Imran, Gavaskar (obviously), Hammond and Miller go out, Chappell comes back and Holding, Lara and Hutton come in, with Lara picked over Richards and Hammond to play the spin.
    Can't fault that team too much, it alsways easier picking a Rest of The World, they have so many players

    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Asia XI
    Sunil Gavaskar
    Virender Sehwag
    Rahul Dravid
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Javed Miandad
    Kumar Sangakkara (k)
    Imran Khan (c)
    Wasim Akram
    Waqar Younis
    Anil Kumble
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    Sehwag the only questionable one for me really, since he has only played for a few years. Replace with Saeed Anwar or Jayasuria at will.

    I think the World XI would probably crush the Asian XI pretty badly due to the shortish batting lineup against the might of Hadlee/Holding/McGrath and the Bradman factor. Still a game I wouldn't mind seeing.
    H Mahmood is proably the opener i'll go for if not Shewag, but Shewag has got such a brillant record over all other Asian opener (apart from Gavaskar). The Batting line up is a bit short that why i went for Kapil Dev, if i was going to play an extra spiner then i'll drop Waqar Younis. I'll also play Bedi over Kumble but i don't think him and Murali will get along . I guess Chandrasekhar the other option, Kumble got a better record then Abdul Qadir.

    I remember a while back i put similar teams into a sim and Rest of The World won 5 nil, mainly down to Bradman. I did another sim without Bradman, G Headley can into the squad (from memory) and Asia won 3-2.
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    I absolutely forgot about Hanif Mohammad. Scratch Sehwag from my Asian side and put Hanif in his place.


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    I just had a thought about how to balance out these sides a bit better. How about Northern Hemisphere against Southern Hemisphere? The weakness of the Asian team is that only two sides have a significant period to choose from, and even then India and Pakistan weren't exactly powerful sides early on. Sri Lanka only have a decade or so of good players, and Bangladesh are rubbish.

    Both the traditional powers of cricket and the other consistently strong side in the West Indies are outside of Asia, but England are the only non-Asian side in the Northern Hemisphere. Then it's one traditional power on each side, with Australia having the West Indies, South Africa, New Zealand and one rubbish side in Zimbabwe, and Asia getting the greats from England.

    So, sides. I'll give it a go...

    Northern Hemisphere
    Jack Hobbs
    Sunil Gavaskar
    Rahul Dravid
    Walter Hammond
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Ken Barrington
    Imran Khan (c)
    Les Ames (k)
    Wasim Akram
    Fred Trueman
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    Ames and Sangakkara is a tight one, since Ames doesn't have the greatest ever record as a batsman in tests being that a good portion of his runs came against the poor sides of his time, but he is obviously a MUCH better keeper than Kumar, so he gets the nod. Javed a bit unlucky to miss out, but Hammond and Barrington push him to 12th man duties. Awesome pace attack, and a great spinner. Quality side.


    Southern Hemisphere
    Gordon Greenidge
    Arthur Morris
    Donald Bradman (c)
    Viv Richards
    Greg Chappell
    Gary Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist (k)
    Richard Hadlee
    Shane Warne
    Michael Holding
    Glenn McGrath

    Same side exactly with the openers changed due to the English monopoly on three of the top four openers of all time, and Richards in for Lara. Langer and Hayden just miss out on opening spots, as does Lawry. Richards comes in due to the increased reliance on pace in the attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    Just thought i'll start a Asia XI vs Rest of The World XI thread up. I know there is a couple of World XI threads, but a World XI can't play anyone (well maybe they play cricket in Mars ). If u guys could pick a Asia XI and Rest of The World XI what would it be, Test players off course. These are my teams for the moment, im sure they change within a couple days, as i would have forgetten a couple players.

    Asia XI
    S Gavaskar
    V Shewag
    R Dravid
    S Tendulkar
    J Miandad
    K Sangakkara (wk)
    I Khan (c)
    K Dev
    W Akram
    W Younis
    M Muralitharan

    R. World XI
    J Hobbs
    H Sutchiffe
    D Bradman (c)
    G Pollock
    G Sobers
    V Richards
    A Gilchrist (wk)
    R Hadlee
    S Warne
    C Ambrose
    G McGarth

    So what sides would you guys have??
    Like both your sides. Glad you picked Pollock, i feel too many people don't consider him for world xi teams because he only played 23 tests, but He was an all-time great.

    Only 2 changes i'd make would be Hanif Mohammad for Sehwag and I'd take Marshall ahead of Ambrose.

    I'd predict a fairly easy victory for the rest of the world

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    Whoops. It was Chimanda that picked Pollock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    I just had a thought about how to balance out these sides a bit better. How about Northern Hemisphere against Southern Hemisphere? The weakness of the Asian team is that only two sides have a significant period to choose from, and even then India and Pakistan weren't exactly powerful sides early on. Sri Lanka only have a decade or so of good players, and Bangladesh are rubbish.

    Both the traditional powers of cricket and the other consistently strong side in the West Indies are outside of Asia, but England are the only non-Asian side in the Northern Hemisphere. Then it's one traditional power on each side, with Australia having the West Indies, South Africa, New Zealand and one rubbish side in Zimbabwe, and Asia getting the greats from England.
    Yeah North and South sides would be more even. Also the Windies are part of the Northern Hemisphere, apart from the Guyana players i think, the rest of the countires are in the Northern Hemposhere These would my sides:

    North XI
    J Hobbs
    S Gavaskar
    W Hammond
    S Tendulkar
    G Sobers
    K Barrington
    C Walcott (wk)
    I Khan (c)
    W Akram
    M Marshall
    M Muralitharan

    There are two really hard calls there Ken Barrington the last batting spot. Guys like Hutton, Richards, Lara and Dravid all have strong cases but i just want for Barrington cus of his record. The other was the keeper but i would always go for guy like Walcott or Sangakkara with Gilly in the other team. If Healy was picked then i might go for Knott, i would prefer him over Ames.

    South XI
    M Hayden
    J Langer
    D Bradman
    G Chappell
    G Pollock
    R Ponting (c)
    A Gilchrist
    R Haddlee
    A Davison
    S Warne
    G McGarth

    I went for Hayden over Morris cus of his combination with Langer. The other guy in contention was Barry Richards, but he didn't enough International cricket. The bowlers were also a hard call, i went for Haddlee and Davison cus of their batting over other guys like Donald, Lillee and Lindwall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    Yeah North and South sides would be more even. Also the Windies are part of the Northern Hemisphere, apart from the Guyana players i think, the rest of the countires are in the Northern Hemposhere These would my sides:
    Haha, I didn't even think about that. For some bizarre reason I just thought of them as being southern hemisphere.

    I wouldn't pick Walcott as the keeper, since he really wasn't one most of the time. Knott or Ames is a better pick - they can both bat very well, well enough in a team which has Akram coming in at number 9. I'd probably also pick Lara or Richards over Tendulkar, but that's a fair enough call.

    In the second team, I'd pick Waugh over Ponting at 6, and also have him as captain.

    So...

    Northern Hemisphere
    Jack Hobbs
    Sunil Gavaskar
    Viv Richards
    Walter Hammond
    Gary Sobers (c)
    Ken Barrington
    Imran Khan
    Les Ames (k)
    Wasim Akram
    Michael Holding
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    12th Man: Sachin Tendulkar

    Southern Hemisphere
    Arthur Morris
    Justin Langer
    Donald Bradman
    Graeme Pollock
    Greg Chappell
    Steve Waugh (c)
    Adam Gilchrist (k)
    Richard Hadlee
    Alan Davidson
    Shane Warne
    Glenn McGrath
    12th Man: Dennis Lillee

    Now, THAT would be a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Haha, I didn't even think about that. For some bizarre reason I just thought of them as being southern hemisphere.

    I wouldn't pick Walcott as the keeper, since he really wasn't one most of the time. Knott or Ames is a better pick - they can both bat very well, well enough in a team which has Akram coming in at number 9. I'd probably also pick Lara or Richards over Tendulkar, but that's a fair enough call.

    In the second team, I'd pick Waugh over Ponting at 6, and also have him as captain.
    On the keeping front i would have either Walcott or Sangakkara, from all reports Sangakkara is a slightly better kepper but Walcott allot better batsmen. I think u need the extra batting considering the South side also bat down to 9 (Allan Davison). You have to pick a side to counter the other team.

    I would also still have Ponting over Steve, he does have the 2nd best average in Australia outside Bradman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_of_darkness
    was Miandad better than Ranatunga?
    I'd say so. Ranatunga was a great ODI player, but was never anything particularly special in tests. Miandad is the only Pakistani to ever average over 50, and did it in the face of some quality opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    I'd say so. Ranatunga was a great ODI player, but was never anything particularly special in tests. Miandad is the only Pakistani to ever average over 50, and did it in the face of some quality opposition.
    Ranatunga was nothing compared to Miandad, their not even in the same league. Ranatunga was a great captain and a decent bat, but thats about it. BTW Inzi averages over 50 ATM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    Ranatunga was nothing compared to Miandad, their not even in the same league. Ranatunga was a great captain and a decent bat, but thats about it. BTW Inzi averages over 50 ATM.
    Apologies. This is because he scored a century in his last test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Apologies. This is because he scored a century in his last test.
    It would be interesting to see how long he can keep it above 50

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