The Ashes won't be close

[luckyeddie]

Please insult... Mark Latham

I had absolutely no idea that he represented the same constituency as Gough Whitlam.

The people of Werriwa must be honoured.

 

[Son Of Coco]

You joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone posted that were England to win the Ashes

Then you'll know how we feel! haha

 

[Son Of Coco]

Honestly, I'm not bitter. I'm a huge admirer of the Australian cricket team and their will to win, and how they go about it on the field. It's the pathetic arrogance of some of their more vocal and immature supporters I find difficiult to deal with. As you so rightly imply, we come from different generations.

The 'brain' bit was meant to be a joke. Perhaps your sense of humour was removed too.

You get that with all supporters though. In some cases it grates more because they are Aussie supporters, in others it's annoying when you hear it from the English - depends on who you yourself support really I guess.

 

[Son Of Coco]

1. I cannot think of a more derogatory term than 'Australian'
2. Cameel is new to CW and doesn't understand that I have a sense of humour which is appreciated by some (yes, even some Australians). He quite naturally thought that I have a downer on you bread-stealers and sheep-rustlers, but he now knows different.
3. Your wisecrack was very much appreciated - it was quite good for you. No, really, it was. It reflects your new, mature attitude. Much better than your usual pulling the legs off spiders (please, please try it with a funnel-web).
4. In order for me to make a civil reply, I would have to BE civil. This, clearly, is impossible.
5. Please show me where I was being abusive - and don't come back with the fact that I insulted your nation. Come on. You haven't apologised to the world for Gough Whitlam OR Kylie Minogue yet.
6. My God - I just referred to 'your nation'. That's akin to awarding it a state of legitimacy. Naturally, I meant 'Penal colony'.
7. You're an amateur

haha, just on number 5: We'll apologise when you guys do the same for the Spice Girls, Atomic Kitten, Gareth Gates, Will whateverhisnameis, Jordan (a.k.a the slapper of the last two centuries - took our Peter Andre and corrupted him too!), any band that has tried and miserably failed to be the Beatles in the last 20 years, Margaret Thatcher, Brits going to foreign countries on package tours...etc etc

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

That too.

I'll come back to those appearances in the Barry McKenzie films - Gough was great, and it'll be a long time before you see his like again. It's no coincidence that Whitlam made cameo appearances in 2 of the 3 Australian cinematic iconic moments of all time (the other being Yahoo Serious's true-to-life portrait of Einstein).

It's a little-known fact, though, that one night in 1957, Whitlam went out for a few beers with famous architect Jorn Utzon and got caught short after a kebab.

It was Gough Whitlam's hemorrhoids which gave Utzon the seeds of an idea which eventually became the design of the Sydney Opera House.

Anyone else you'd like insulting?

Well there you go! This brings to mind a tale about Gough's nemesis and fellow Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Fraser. Reportedly, soon after he was thumped by Bob "I can scull a yard-glass in 8 seconds" Hawke, he went on a trip to the United States, and one evening after a drinking session awoke in his hotel room without his money, keys, identification or, in fact, his pants.

We have some wonderful public representatives here, I tell you.

 

[telsor]

You get that with all supporters though. In some cases it grates more because they are Aussie supporters, in others it's annoying when you hear it from the English - depends on who you yourself support really I guess.

Australians are probably worse than most though, mostly because winning consistantly over a long period gives some supporters a certain attitude which puts other teams supporters on edge ( you'll find this is true in most sports ). That said, other teams supporters are always looking out for it and take 'offense' more easily, so there is a kind of circularity to the argument.

The only other particularly bad supporters are the Indians ( I am, of course only refering to only the bad individuals here, they also have excellent supporters ), which is pure numbers both in the sense that if 1% of Indians are crazy/bad thats a lot more significant than even 10% of Australian supporters and there is also the confidence so many voices in agreement gives them.

 

[twctopcat]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4456095.stm#

Well said goughie, talking sense unlike the aussie fool.

 

[Arjun]

Whom should England pick as a reserve opener?

 

[biased indian]

Whom should England pick as a reserve opener?

y should they do that. the game is played in england they will be only picking 12 isn't it ??

 

[superkingdave]

Indeed, though if one of Strauss or Tresco were ruled out the most likely replacement would be Key or a move up the order for Vaughan

 

[sledger]

i suppose it could be bell as he has experience as an opener and is likely to get in the team one way or another sometime soon, could be hs big break i suppose

 

[sledger]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4456095.stm#

Well said goughie, talking sense unlike the aussie fool.

indeed so.
the ahem "aussie fool" was indeed out of order, just verging towards pathetic imo, taking things far to seriously, if he really thought that why on earth did he have to voice it publicly ?

 

[Neil Pickup]

i suppose it could be bell as he has experience as an opener and is likely to get in the team one way or another sometime soon, could be hs big break i suppose

He won't open in the Ashes, no way.

 

[sledger]

He won't open in the Ashes, no way.

bar a major injury disaster no he wont, and neither will anyone expect him too. however he is capable of playing that role there isnt much doubting his capacity to do so.

 

[marc71178]

i suppose it could be bell as he has experience as an opener and is likely to get in the team one way or another sometime soon, could be hs big break i suppose

Since when has Bell had experience as an opener?!

 

[sledger]

Since when has Bell had experience as an opener?!

he opened in zimbabwe, and i am sur ehe has done so for warwickshire at some point as well .

 

[marc71178]

So opening in a couple of One Day games against the equivalent of Neil's U13 3rd XI (and he hasn't done for Warwickshire) is preparation for facing McGrath and Gillespie in Tests?!

 

[chaminda_00]

So opening in a couple of One Day games against the equivalent of Neil's U13 3rd XI (and he hasn't done for Warwickshire) is preparation for facing McGrath and Gillespie in Tests?!

I would say if England get injuries to their openers the pecking order would be something like this:

Vaughan
Key
Butcher

All these guys have opened in both FC and Test and would be the first three they would call on.

Also KP opening aganist India A has more weight then Bell opening aganist Zimbabwe, also these are both OD matches not FC or Tests.