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Old 22-03-2005, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Great West Indian Team (1976-1995) vs Current Great Australian Side (1995 to Now)

What can we say about these two sides, they are two of the greatest genearation of cricketers to play the game. Firstly lets look at that superb West Indian side which Clive Llyod and Viv Richards commanded with such pride and with his philosophy of those 4 fast bowlers such a Marshall, Garner, Roberts, Holding with an abundance of powerful backup bowlers such as Croft, Daniel, Clark and Davis and when King Viv aka `` The Master Blaster took over from the llyod era their was the Emergence of Ambrose, Walsh, Patterson and Bishop their wasn't much respite for International Batsmen. While the lads with the bat were just some of the most aggresive batsmen of all time i reckon, with openers Fredricks, Greenidge and Haynes in the middle order the Richardson, Big Viv, Rowe, the dependable Larry gomes follwed by Llyod. Thw indies also had in my view two of the best glovesmen to ever play this sport Derrick Murray and especially Jeff Dujon, some crazy people say that team wasn't complete simply because they didn't have a world class spinner they used Roger Harper sparingly but i would say with that abundance of fast bowlers they dindn't need one.

While this Current australian team is superb in its own way, some excellent players mixed with some lads which could be said to be all time greats who undoubtebly have such superb depth that every team during this period has surely envied. They Have currently two excellent openers in Langer and Hyaden who whenever they break up would surely the most succesful opening partnership in test history. But Before them their was Mark Taylor and Michael Slater, two top players in their own right. In the middle order thier was and currently are the superb Waugh Twins, David Bonn (For a while), Ponting, Martyn, Katich and the young star Micheal Clarke and guys such has Lehmann, Stuart Law, Bevan, Elliot who were very inlucky to not have played more test for australia. That same problem also lurks within the bowling while the greats McDermott, McGrath, Warne, who r well backed up by Lee, Kaprowicz etc players such as MacGill, Miller, Bichel even to an extent blokes like Nicholas, Wright, Dawes r also unlucky aussies. While like that west indian team they had and have two outstanding Keeper Batsmen Healy and Gilchrist both who contributed superbly to the great aussie side well in their own way.

Note: I am not comparing these sides i'm just stating how dominant they have and in australia's case still dominating world cricket, But if i were to compare them i must say the aussies would get a mauling

Here are my Best West Indies Line-up over those 19 years

G.Greendige
D.Haynes
R.Richardson
V.Richards
L.Rowe
C.LLyod * - Skipper
J.Dujon + - Keeper
M.Marshall
M.Holding
A.Roberts
J.Garner

Here is my Best Aussie Line-up to date

M.Taylor
M.Hayden
R.Ponting
M.Waugh
D.Boon
S.Waugh * - Skipper
A.Gilchrist + - Keeper
S.Warne
J.Gillespie
C.McDermott
G.McGrath
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Old 22-03-2005, 02:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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oh well i didn't realise that had posted a similar thread to this mate, but mine is saying who is better its just showing how dominant they were and in australia's case still are in their respective era's.
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No Lara? Fair enough, it's your opinion and your team (don't want a Richie's World XI thing on our hands again! haha)

I think the Aussies would beat the Windies because, let's face it, most of the West Indian team are in their 40's/early 50's now. It would be a tough ask just getting them walking.
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i wouldn't really say australia were dominant from 1995-1999 i mean they missed out on a vb series final and lost a world cup, but from 1999- now, yeah. I reckon the west indian team would win if they played simply because they are a much tougher side. I dont really think taylor, waugh, hayden, ponting, boon would handle marshall, roberts, garner very well. you picked pretty crap sides for both team's both country's have better players.
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Old 22-03-2005, 07:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i wouldn't really say australia were dominant from 1995-1999 i mean they missed out on a vb series final and lost a world cup, but from 1999- now, yeah. I reckon the west indian team would win if they played simply because they are a much tougher side. I dont really think taylor, waugh, hayden, ponting, boon would handle marshall, roberts, garner very well. you picked pretty crap sides for both team's both country's have better players.
well mate i'm not comparing the sides i'm just stating how dominant they were and are in their various era's, and if u r sayin that the west indian and australian teams that i have picked are crap i beg to differ, i would like to see ur best XI for both sides
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i wouldn't really say australia were dominant from 1995-1999 i mean they missed out on a vb series final and lost a world cup,
So what? The WI team in the period described ALSO lost a WC final (1983), didn't make the finals of the 1987 or 1992 WC's, drew two Test series (home and away) with Pakistan, drew an away series in India and lost an away Test series in NZ.

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I dont really think taylor, waugh, hayden, ponting, boon would handle marshall, roberts, garner very well.
Yet two of those players showed they were able to and the rest, well, I don't know what else they could do to prove themselves. It's redundant anyway because we'll never know.
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well its fair to wonder what would happen if those two sides were to meet, but thats not my intentions of the post, it is just stating how dominat these two sides have been in their respective era's.
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i wouldn't really say australia were dominant from 1995-1999 i mean they missed out on a vb series final and lost a world cup, but from 1999- now, yeah. I reckon the west indian team would win if they played simply because they are a much tougher side. I dont really think taylor, waugh, hayden, ponting, boon would handle marshall, roberts, garner very well. you picked pretty crap sides for both team's both country's have better players.
hehehe nice one dude!!! not dominant...
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The Post 1970 XIs

Australia

1. Justin Langer
2. Matthew Hayden
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Greg Chappell
5. Steve Waugh (captain)
6. Allan Border
7. Adam Gilchrist (keeper)
8. Shane Warne
9. Dennis Lillee
10. Jeff Thomson
11. Glenn McGrath

West Indies

1. Roy Fredericks
2. Gordon Greenidge
3. Brian Lara
4. Viv Richards
5. Clive Lloyd (captain)
6. Larry Gomes
7. Jeff Dujon (keeper)
8. Malcolm Marshall
9. Michael Holding
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First off, if you are making a best possible lineup from those 19 years for WI, Ritchie Richardson doesnt get a peep.
One certain chap called Allvin Kallicharan, who averaged 50 after 50 tests ( and in those days, 50 ave. was a big deal) would replace Ritchie in a blink..... Kalli in my opinion was a great player worthy of the highest accolades - his form took a nosedive after his shoulder injury, which he never really recovered from and lost a significant bit of feel...
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Australia, daylight then west Indies.

Anyone who says different knows jack ship about cricket.
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Australia, daylight then west Indies.

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PS: you forgot the 'aussie aussie aussie. oi oi oi' part.
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PS: you forgot the 'aussie aussie aussie. oi oi oi' part.
I'm west Indian didnt you know.
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First off, if you are making a best possible lineup from those 19 years for WI, Ritchie Richardson doesnt get a peep.
One certain chap called Allvin Kallicharan, who averaged 50 after 50 tests ( and in those days, 50 ave. was a big deal) would replace Ritchie in a blink..... Kalli in my opinion was a great player worthy of the highest accolades - his form took a nosedive after his shoulder injury, which he never really recovered from and lost a significant bit of feel...

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