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    Learn to look after the Ball New Zealand !!!

    To me it's no mystery that NZ struggle to get reverse swing once the ball gets old. Sure it requires skill on the bowlers part to get it reversing, but you've got to give yourself a chance. NZ as a whole (team) don't seem to look after the ball nearly as well as most other sides. I first noticed it in England last year when the Eng bowlers really worked on the old ball..totally legally as well. All fielders spent a long time shining it. Australia do it well also. New Zealand need to make much more of a concious effort to really work on one side of the old ball. I suppose then actually knowing how to reverse it would also help

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    NZ reversed the ball in the First Test with Franklin and Astle
    GO THE BLACK CAPS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming
    NZ reversed the ball in the First Test with Franklin and Astle
    slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming
    NZ reversed the ball in the First Test with Franklin and Astle
    Its hardly a strength


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming
    NZ reversed the ball in the First Test with Franklin and Astle
    Didn't help them much, did it?

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    interestingly the commentators were talking about this in the 1st Test after McGrath's efforts, and apparently in the AUS side apparently only McGrath & Warne actually work the ball as such..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy
    Didn't help them much, did it?
    Did I say it did? Simply just proving zinzan wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming
    Did I say it did? Simply just proving zinzan wrong.
    How is that proving me wrong critten?....If you could actually read you'd see that i simply stated that NZ didn't look after or work on the old ball as much as the likes of Australia and England, therefore reducing the chances of the ball reversing. Where did i say NZ got absolutely no reverse swing??

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    You said they struggle to get reverse swing. Martin, Franklin and Astle get reverse because of their seam position when they release the ball. Tuffey and O'Brien don't, because they bowl with a scrambled seam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12
    How is that proving me wrong critten?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12
    To me it's no mystery that NZ struggle to get reverse swing once the ball gets old. Sure it requires skill on the bowlers part to get it reversing, but you've got to give yourself a chance. NZ as a whole (team) don't seem to look after the ball nearly as well as most other sides. I first noticed it in England last year when the Eng bowlers really worked on the old ball..totally legally as well. All fielders spent a long time shining it. Australia do it well also. New Zealand need to make much more of a concious effort to really work on one side of the old ball. I suppose then actually knowing how to reverse it would also help
    Better you look after the ball (and it's dictated much more by the state of the outfield than the skill of the fielders) the less it tends to reverse.
    The best thing IMO is to get conventional swing for as long as you can, and when it stops get it into the dust as often as you legally can, while shining the one side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
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    lol thats gold, well done richard i commend ye hehehe,



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