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[Sanz]

Originally Posted by tooextracool

your knowledge of cricket really is abysmal. to say that every one of his innings are flukes is like saying that everyone of lara's innings or everyone of bradman's successful innings are flukes
and really did you think flintoff is already a better ODI player than hick? given hes had what, barely 2.5 successful years of ODI cricket.
botham who by and large was only half as successful an ODI player as he was a test player.
at least if you were going to get the actual great english ODI players, you might wanna get nick knight and robin smith, both of whom would make the all time england XI along with hick.

Load of Crap.

[tooextracool]

Originally Posted by Sanz

Did you mean English Domestic Cricket ?

anyways TEC has just dubbed Hick's test career as success.

seriously, when will you learn to read?

[tooextracool]

Originally Posted by Sanz

Load of Crap.

well done in explaining why too.

[Sanz]

As if any explaination is going to work

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sanz

Last time I followed a test match where Mcgill played, he took 8 wickets in the test match and that was not against Bangladesh.

Yes, one of his few decent matches since 2001.

I guess you need to define test class first, It seems to me that in your book players like Warne, Murali etc are test class, rest are rubbish.

Test-class players are obviously those who have had success in Test-cricket; Test-class teams are those that aren't humiliated almost every time they play a match.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sanz

Did you mean English Domestic Cricket ?

What else?

anyways TEC has just dubbed Hick's test career as success.

No, he's dubbed part of it a success, and he's right. Hick in this period here was a big success, against 6 different teams; and the period lasted 25 Tests and nearly 3 years.
No, the fact that he was a success in this period doesn't mean he wasn't an average Test-cricketer, but nor did he never once look like the real thing, because for most people 3 years averaging all but 50 and peforming against every team you face is the real thing.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sanz

Load of Crap.

No, it's not, it's completely true; like I've said earlier, I have my doubts about your perceptions of English cricket.
Anyone who seriously rates Botham and Flintoff above Knight and Hick doesn't really have too much idea.