Changes to the Black Caps....

[Richard]

Let alone in place of McMillan...
And to think I once thought he could replace Twose, let alone polish his boots...

 

[MoxPearl]

well nz are going to HAVE to make some major changes.. i mean.. this next game is all or nothing ...

 

[thierry henry]

I don't think McMillan should be dropped, certainly not for Lou Vincent. McMillan looks in quite good form to me, although he didn't really get amongst the runs. As for Wilson, well I think Adams is the obvious replacement, although I truly couldn't care less which one of the two is selected, as they both offer almost exactly the same thing. I don't really agree with promoting McCullum up the order- I am a huge McCullum fan but he hasn't batted as well in ODIs lately as people seem to think (check his recent performances if you don't believe me). I'd have Papps in for Sinclair, but it seems as though Bracewell has some sort of fascination with the Marshall twins, which I don't really understand, but whatever.

I don't really think you can change the opening bowlers. There isn't anyone better. Mills bowled quite well at the death yesterday which will probably earn him a reprieve.

And just getting back to Vincent- DO NOT PICK HIM. I think people tend to forget that Vincent wasn't just a flash in the pan, he was actually a regular member of the side for the best part of 3 years and 60-odd games, and he was hopelessly awful that entire time. Rarely has such an inept performer been given so many chances- Sinclair's record stacks up pretty well in comparison.

 

[Fiery]

it seems as though Bracewell has some sort of fascination with the Marshall twins, which I don't really understand, but whatever.

Have you been watching Hamish Marshall play?

 

[Blaze]

How about letting McMillan bat three?
Maybe even get Papps to open and put Fleming at four (long-shot, I know...)
Tuffey can't keep getting selected, surely... likewise Mills.
Oram being missed... badly.

Oram is a highly overrated bowler.

 

[Blaze]

I say replace Daryl Tuffey for James Franklin
Matthew Sinclair for Michael Papps (we need a solid top order batter)

Why James Franklin? I rekon he is too inconsistant at hitting his length and even his line and would get smashed badly by the aussies

 

[Ming]

Oram is a highly overrated bowler.

Well, he's 5th in the world and has an excellent RPO over the past 3 seasons.

Vincent was my 3rd option behind Papps and J Marshall to replace Sinclair/McMillan. If Vincent continues scoring runs, he should be fairly considered for the Test series, in the middle order. Not opening, because that was only make-shift. To average 30 as a makeshift opener is OK. Considering he has only seldomly batted there in his life.

 

[J.Coney]

just thought i would compile some stats. m.sinclair has faced aust. 8 times so i compared other players first 8 games against aussie, to see if his axing was unjust.

M.Papps .Has not played against aust.
players name. m. avg. runs. h.s
S.Styrus_____ 8 12.5 72 23
L.Vincent_____8 13.6 109 55
C.McMillan___ 8 29.3 235 53*
M.Sinclair____ 8 14.6 117 48

NB. Styrus has played in total 17 matches against aust and now avg. 11.73
C.Mcmillan has played 25 matches against aust. his high score is still 53* which he scored in his 7th match.

 

[Somerset]

Lou Vincent ???????????? I do hope your not referring to Oneday cricket. Vincent has an average of around 20 and a batting strikerate of 59 !!!!!!! A Worse strike rate than Sinclair

Its not like he wasn't given a decent go either, He played around 60 matches ...

You are joking aren't you ???????

I don't know how Vincent managed to play 60 ODIs, possibly through his incredible debut test before his luck finally ran out. Not a bad knock from Lou yesterday though, 152 against Otago so he may still be in the reckoning for a recall soon.

 

[Somerset]

Oram is a highly overrated bowler.

Behind Vettori, Bond and Cairns, and possibly Tuffey when he was at his best, Jacob Oram is the best bowler we've got. His persistence, particularly in ODIs was a major reason for New Zealand's recent success.

 

[Somerset]

just thought i would compile some stats. m.sinclair has faced aust. 8 times so i compared other players first 8 games against aussie, to see if his axing was unjust.

M.Papps .Has not played against aust.
players name. m. avg. runs. h.s
S.Styrus_____ 8 12.5 72 23
L.Vincent_____8 13.6 109 55
C.McMillan___ 8 29.3 235 53*
M.Sinclair____ 8 14.6 117 48

NB. Styrus has played in total 17 matches against aust and now avg. 11.73
C.Mcmillan has played 25 matches against aust. his high score is still 53* which he scored in his 7th match.

Fairly embarrasing stats from a New Zealand point of view, particularly that statistic regarding Scott Styris. McMillan's isn't so bad, in fact it's higher than his overall ODI career average but still unacceptable if we're to have a realistic chance of making the Aussies work for the victory.

 

[Blaze]

Behind Vettori, Bond and Cairns, and possibly Tuffey when he was at his best, Jacob Oram is the best bowler we've got. His persistence, particularly in ODIs was a major reason for New Zealand's recent success.

I mean mainly as a test bowler but yeah I still think he is an overrated bowler

 

[sportychic33]

blaze, i can't see how you can call oram as being a highly overrated bowler. . especially in ODI'S. his economy rate is really good, and he puts enough pressure on to pick up a couple of wickets, and can bowl to a field unlike some of the NZ bowlers yesterday

 

[Fiery]

Oram is a highly overrated bowler.

He's one of the best bowlers in the country, especially the way the current lot are bowling

 

[cbuts]

oram is the best bowler we ahve got. in the test scene he gets no support, and thus hasnt had much succes latly. in odi's he justifiably our best rated bowler. his line and length are brilliant, and in this form gets great support from vettori and cairns.

gotta love indians or any other internationals having opinions on who should be in and out. i doubt very much that they have seen or heard any of our domestic games

my team for the 3rd odi would be
flemming
astle
sincair
h marshall
j marshall
mcmillian
cairns
mccullum
vettori
hamilton
aldridge

cairns and macca to be floated depending on situation. tuffey and mills dont deserve to be there. tuffey especailly. he is supposed to be our number 1 bowler. and so far his display in the 2 games has been nothing short of pathetic.

also how can anyone defend wilson being there. he has done nothing domestically - well since 1992 anyway. and sofar in his two chances against the aussies (20/20 as well) he has bowled both sides of the wicket, half volleys followed up by half trackers. he would probaly dissaper for 8 or 9 and over in club cricket

 

[cbuts]

Oram is a highly overrated bowler.

terriable, just a terriable comment. one must wonder weather u actually watch cricket

 

[cbuts]

I'm an unashamed Wilson supporter. His figures sound disappointing (I've seen about five balls in the whole match, as I am working 2pm-11pm tonight), but I guess you have to take into account he was up against the best team in the world, on a good batting pitch against batsman who, in the main, were set.

They'll give him another shot in another match, and rightly so.

However, if he doesn't tighten up, I see no reason to persist with him for too long after this series.

doesnt matter who u play, u bowl like that and you will be dispatched

 

[Arjun]

gotta love indians or any other internationals having opinions on who should be in and out. i doubt very much that they have seen or heard any of our domestic games

A lot of what I say is based on fans' statements and CricInfo scores and reports. We can't even watch domestic matches from our own country (and maybe not even international matches), let alone those in NZ. Strangely, some Aussie FC matches are shown here, and also more than a few from England.

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aldridge
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Who's he?

He's one of the best bowlers in the country, especially the way the current lot are bowling

He also has good batting technique, particularly in hitting big shots. He needs to put that to good use to be more useful in the NZ side.

One player of interest is Glen Sulzberger. He used to be a specialist batsman but is now a regular off-spinner. What do you think?

 

[Arjun]

Papps comes in for Sinclair. Not bad, since he has a very good ODI average, though only in 5 matches, and has been in form. From the current openers, who should bat lower down? Maybe Fleming?

 

[cbuts]

A lot of what I say is based on fans' statements and CricInfo scores and reports. We can't even watch domestic matches from our own country (and maybe not even international matches), let alone those in NZ. Strangely, some Aussie FC matches are shown here, and also more than a few from England.Who's he?He also has good batting technique, particularly in hitting big shots. He needs to put that to good use to be more useful in the NZ side.

One player of interest is Glen Sulzberger. He used to be a specialist batsman but is now a regular off-spinner. What do you think?

aldridge, just set teh record for most wickets taken during the state shield season. he has also done well consistanly for a couple of seasons. sulzberger, never heard of him being a specialist batter. alright offie, from my team, possibly 3rd spinner behind vettori and wiseman