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    Does it help to send in a night-watchman?

    This is the question that first got us thinking about the 'batting position' research I posted earlier. But it all got a bit cumbersome, so we decided to separate the other 'batting position' elements from the analysis of night-watchmen themselves. The latter bit is at Third Slip online, but the link setting here seems to have changed, so I can't post that right.

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    Certainly. Whether the nigh****chman plays well or not is another matter. But I think whenever a openeing partnership lays a good foundation, a NW is a must (ask Queensland and Andy Bichel). As for tests, a NW must be sent in if there is less than an hour to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookie
    nigh****chman

    that is one of the funniest things I've seen today.

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    I dont think tw@t is worth asterisking.


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    LOL! Neither do I.
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    A night watchman gives batting practice to the tailender and lays a platform for the rest of the order the next day.

    But as Kerry O' Keeffe puts it, "We've battled to dismiss 11 hulking West Indians, lactic acid at record levels, and some pretty-boy number 3 decides he's too valuable to risk".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookie
    I dont think tw@t is worth asterisking.
    Lol, something to exclude from the filters?

    Personally, I think night-watchmen are worth employing on most occasions late in the day when a side has lost an early wicket at the top of the innings. As long as they've got a defence that is capable of keeping out the oppostition men who are licking their lips at the prospect of bowling to a tail-ender, it's worth sending one out in my opinion.

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    I do remember a coupla years back that Oz declared their policy was to do away with night-watchmen (note careful use of hyphen!) when SRW was skip. Is this still the case or are they using them again now?

    From an English point of view Hoggy is a pretty decent night-watch. He's pretty shotless, but has a solid defence so can certainly block an end up to protect more proficient batters' wickets.

    I'd reckon an hour's play left is too early to send one in tho, more like 20-30 minutes would be my shout or the overs-left equivalent (5-6 I guess).
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    I've never been a fan of night-watchman (unless i'm the one being used, giving me a rare chance to bat in the top 7).

    I just don't see how a tailender is more capable of keeping his wicket for the last half an hour then a recognised batsmen is.

    I see the thoery that "losing a tailender late in the day isn't as painful as losing a top order batsmen" but i just don't agree with it. Some people like them, some don't, and i'm one in the latter category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookie
    I dont think tw@t is worth asterisking.
    I think it is. Still, need to do something about "Caddick syndrome"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    I do remember a coupla years back that Oz declared their policy was to do away with night-watchmen (note careful use of hyphen!) when SRW was skip. Is this still the case or are they using them again now?
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    I think the Aussies use Gillespie now, he's not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    I think it is. Still, need to do something about "Caddick syndrome"...
    At least ***le has been avoided now, thank God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    I do remember a coupla years back that Oz declared their policy was to do away with night-watchmen (note careful use of hyphen!) when SRW was skip. Is this still the case or are they using them again now?
    It was only ever Stephen Waugh who used that policy - Ponting used a nigh****chman (ha ha!! ) in his first Test as captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_

    that is one of the funniest things I've seen today.
    It was genuinely funny, yeah - as you can see by my reaction above.
    But it really p*ssed me off, frankly, when ***le happened.

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