Most underrated and overrated players in the world?

Nonentity · 17-02-2005, 02:00 AM

underrated
Mohammed Sami
on his day he can rip apart any batting lineup in the world
overrated
Shoaib Akhtar
crap...can't be bothered to give 100% for his country

social · 17-02-2005, 03:20 AM

From replies to this forum, it is obvious that Sami is very underrated.

McMillan (NZ) is underrated.

Harmison is now underrated.

Vettori is underrated.

Tendulkar and Hayden are underrated by TEC.

Strauss is overrated but on his way back.

Zinzan · 17-02-2005, 03:22 AM

Bichel underated ...fantastic allround oneday player...can't get a look in to the national side

garage flower · 17-02-2005, 03:24 AM

I think Chanderpaul's underrated by a lot of people and, sticking with the West Indies, I think Chris Gayle may be overrated.

_Ed_ · 17-02-2005, 03:25 AM

Hamish Marshall is a really good ODI batsman and doesn't get the recognition he deserves. I think Shiv Chanderpaul has been a bit underrated too.

BoyBrumby · 17-02-2005, 05:15 AM

Surprised no-one has mentioned Fred as overrated yet, a lot of posters seem to think he is (I don't think he is BTW, possibly a shade overhyped, but he's top drawer).

Sangakarra (sp?) is one who doesn't get the credit he deserves; he's not a flawless keeper (better than Geraint tho!), but he averages nigh on 50. Chris Harris is underestimated too; not a player to please the purists, but still v handy in ODIs.

deeps · 17-02-2005, 05:26 AM

over rated:
andy symonds, cam white, sourav ganguly, akhtar, graeme smith, chris gayle (i admit i haven't seen much of him), dravid (yes still under rated)

under rated:

lakshmipathy balaji (he had just as good figures as irfan pathan and even better IIRC till he got injured), sami, youhana, shoaib malik (he didnt do much to improve that thougH), vikram solanki, ashraful, tendulkar (i still think he's hyped up to be better than he is...not sayin he's not a brilliant player, but not GOD as some ppl say)

Neil Pickup · 17-02-2005, 05:30 AM

Why's Solanki under-rated? Plenty would say he's over-rated to have had such a long crack at International cricket.

Also, Sami has days where he's unplayable, and days where he's pure dirge. The latter are far more common, which is why people don't rate him.

a massive zebra · 17-02-2005, 07:27 AM

Underrated

Martyn
Hayden
Sangakarra
Harbhajan
Hoggard
Kallis
MacGill (by Richard)
Tendulkar (by TEC)

Overrated

Harmison
S Jones
Warne
Ashraful
Pathan
M Clarke

Richard · 17-02-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a massive zebra

MacGill (by Richard)

Really? How on Earth is a bowler who has had 1 seriously good authentic Test-match in the last 6 years any good at all?

Richard · 17-02-2005, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinzan12

Bichel underated ...fantastic allround oneday player...can't get a look in to the national side

Really?
Maybe he was in this short period but as you can see, subtract this period and his ER is 4.82-an-over and average 39 (even worse when you get rid of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe games ).
Bichel is a very, very poor player who peaked at just the right time, his peak finshing in the most important ODI tournament of them all.

Richard · 17-02-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garage flower

I think Chanderpaul's underrated by a lot of people

Not by me, certainly.
Capable of playing innings (both fast and slow) that few people are capable of playing, and an extremely consistent batsman in both forms of the game, and good at both the international and the domestic level.

Richard · 17-02-2005, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonentity

underrated
Mohammed Sami
on his day he can rip apart any batting lineup in the world

Except that those days come maybe 1 in 20... and the other 19 are as abysmal as they come.

Richard · 17-02-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by social

McMillan (NZ) is underrated.

Really?
Most people on here tend to reckon McMillan is extremely overrated, and I see what they mean, too.

Swervy · 17-02-2005, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

Really?
Maybe he was in this short period but as you can see, subtract this period and his ER is 4.82-an-over and average 39 (even worse when you get rid of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe games ).
Bichel is a very, very poor player who peaked at just the right time, his peak finshing in the most important ODI tournament of them all.

as if he is a very very poor player

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17-02-2005, 03:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
social International Coach Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 11,073	From replies to this forum, it is obvious that Sami is very underrated. McMillan (NZ) is underrated. Harmison is now underrated. Vettori is underrated. Tendulkar and Hayden are underrated by TEC. Strauss is overrated but on his way back.

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Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,735	Bichel underated ...fantastic allround oneday player...can't get a look in to the national side

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garage flower State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,096	I think Chanderpaul's underrated by a lot of people and, sticking with the West Indies, I think Chris Gayle may be overrated.

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_Ed_ Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, Aotearoa Posts: 19,111	Hamish Marshall is a really good ODI batsman and doesn't get the recognition he deserves. I think Shiv Chanderpaul has been a bit underrated too.

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deeps International 12th Man Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: perth, australia Posts: 1,661	over rated: andy symonds, cam white, sourav ganguly, akhtar, graeme smith, chris gayle (i admit i haven't seen much of him), dravid (yes still under rated) under rated: lakshmipathy balaji (he had just as good figures as irfan pathan and even better IIRC till he got injured), sami, youhana, shoaib malik (he didnt do much to improve that thougH), vikram solanki, ashraful, tendulkar (i still think he's hyped up to be better than he is...not sayin he's not a brilliant player, but not GOD as some ppl say)

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